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From: Masami Hiramatsu <masami.hiramatsu.pt@hitachi.com>
To: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
Cc: Namhyung Kim <namhyung@kernel.org>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Srikar Dronamraju <srikar@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Hyeoncheol Lee <cheol.lee@lge.com>,
	"zhangwei(Jovi)" <jovi.zhangwei@huawei.com>,
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@ghostprotocols.net>,
	Hemant Kumar <hkshaw@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Namhyung Kim <namhyung.kim@lge.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 16/17] uprobes: Allocate ->utask before handler_chain() for tracing handlers
Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2013 10:57:39 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <52AA6993.6080804@hitachi.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20131212194628.GA5786@redhat.com>

(2013/12/13 4:46), Oleg Nesterov wrote:
> On 12/12, Masami Hiramatsu wrote:
>>
>> (2013/12/12 3:11), Oleg Nesterov wrote:
>>> On 12/11, Masami Hiramatsu wrote:
>>>>
>>>> But it could skip the handler_chain silently. It could confuse users
>>>> why their probe doesn't hit as expected.
>>>
>>> No, we will restart the same (probed) instruction, handle_swbp()
>>> will be called again, get_utask() will be called again.
>>
>> Hmm, in that case, how would you avoid infinite recursive loop??
> 
> Masami, I do not understand your concerns ;) see below.
> 
>> Would you repeat it until get_utask() != NULL?
> 
> Yes, the task will loop until kmalloc(GFP_KERNEL) succeeds, and I see
> nothing wrong here.
> 
> Just in case, let me remind that it won't loop in kernel mode, it can
> take a signal, it can be killed. And it is not recursive, this is
> like restart after page fault (which btw can fault again if the page
> was unmapped again, and "in theory" this loop can be infinite too).

Ah! I got it :)

> And why this is bad? Once again, this is GFP_KERNEL allocation, if it
> loops "indefinitely" there is something wrong. Even a single GFP_KERNEL
> failure likely means the task is already killed by oom, so it will
> simply exit when it returns to user-mode.

Indeed. It should be killed.

> And how this differs from, say, the "endless" should_alloc_retry() loop
> in __alloc_pages_slowpath() ? And note that in this case we loop in
> kernel mode. Of course this is not possible "in practice", but the same
> is true for the "endless" loop you are worried about.

Agreed, at least that is not uprobe's business :)

> 
>>>> Hmm, in that case, should uprobes handlers never be called on ppc with
>>>> this change?
>>>
>>> Why? With this change ppc will have ->utask != NULL even if it doesn't
>>> need it at all.
>>
>> Ah, I see. This changes that.
> 
> Yes, this is why the changelog says "a bit unfortunate", we allocate the
> memory even there is no trace_uprobe consumer. So it would be nice to
> cleanup this later somehow, but imho this is a low priority problem and
> perhaps we will simply postulate that uprobe_consumer->handler() can
> rely on task->utask != NULL and remove get_utask() from pre_ssout().
> The only necessary cleanup (in my opinion) is that we should add another
> member into the union in uprobe_task for trace_uprobe.c, but again I
> think we should do this later to avoid the (potentially conflicting)
> changes in this series.
> 
> Oleg.
> 

Thank you,


-- 
Masami HIRAMATSU
IT Management Research Dept. Linux Technology Center
Hitachi, Ltd., Yokohama Research Laboratory
E-mail: masami.hiramatsu.pt@hitachi.com



  reply	other threads:[~2013-12-13  1:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-12-09  6:19 [PATCHSET 00/17] tracing/uprobes: Add support for more fetch methods (v8) Namhyung Kim
2013-12-09  6:19 ` [PATCH 01/17] tracing/uprobes: Fix documentation of uprobe registration syntax Namhyung Kim
2013-12-09  6:19 ` [PATCH 02/17] tracing/probes: Fix basic print type functions Namhyung Kim
2013-12-09  6:19 ` [PATCH 03/17] tracing/kprobes: Factor out struct trace_probe Namhyung Kim
2013-12-09  6:19 ` [PATCH 04/17] tracing/uprobes: Convert to " Namhyung Kim
2013-12-09  6:19 ` [PATCH 05/17] tracing/kprobes: Move common functions to trace_probe.h Namhyung Kim
2013-12-09  6:19 ` [PATCH 06/17] tracing/probes: Integrate duplicate set_print_fmt() Namhyung Kim
2013-12-09  6:19 ` [PATCH 07/17] tracing/probes: Move fetch function helpers to trace_probe.h Namhyung Kim
2013-12-09 15:12   ` Masami Hiramatsu
2013-12-09  6:19 ` [PATCH 08/17] tracing/probes: Split [ku]probes_fetch_type_table Namhyung Kim
2013-12-09 15:09   ` Masami Hiramatsu
2013-12-10  1:05     ` Namhyung Kim
2013-12-10  4:41       ` Namhyung Kim
2013-12-10  9:14         ` Masami Hiramatsu
2013-12-09  6:19 ` [PATCH 09/17] tracing/probes: Implement 'stack' fetch method for uprobes Namhyung Kim
2013-12-09  6:19 ` [PATCH 10/17] tracing/probes: Move 'symbol' fetch method to kprobes Namhyung Kim
2013-12-10 10:12   ` Masami Hiramatsu
2013-12-11  1:05     ` Namhyung Kim
2013-12-11  1:26       ` Masami Hiramatsu
2013-12-09  6:19 ` [PATCH 11/17] tracing/probes: Add fetch{,_size} member into deref fetch method Namhyung Kim
2013-12-09  6:20 ` [PATCH 12/17] tracing/probes: Implement 'memory' fetch method for uprobes Namhyung Kim
2013-12-10 11:00   ` Masami Hiramatsu
2013-12-11  1:15     ` Namhyung Kim
2013-12-11  1:27       ` Masami Hiramatsu
2013-12-09  6:20 ` [PATCH 13/17] tracing/uprobes: Pass 'is_return' to traceprobe_parse_probe_arg() Namhyung Kim
2013-12-09 15:11   ` Masami Hiramatsu
2013-12-09  6:20 ` [PATCH 14/17] tracing/uprobes: Fetch args before reserving a ring buffer Namhyung Kim
2013-12-09  6:20 ` [PATCH 15/17] tracing/uprobes: Add support for full argument access methods Namhyung Kim
2013-12-09  6:20 ` [PATCH 16/17] uprobes: Allocate ->utask before handler_chain() for tracing handlers Namhyung Kim
2013-12-10 10:41   ` Masami Hiramatsu
2013-12-10 15:57     ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-12-11  1:30       ` Namhyung Kim
2013-12-11  1:43       ` Masami Hiramatsu
2013-12-11 18:11         ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-12-12  5:55           ` Masami Hiramatsu
2013-12-12 19:46             ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-12-13  1:57               ` Masami Hiramatsu [this message]
2013-12-13  1:58   ` Masami Hiramatsu
2013-12-09  6:20 ` [PATCH 17/17] tracing/uprobes: Add @+file_offset fetch method Namhyung Kim
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2013-12-16  4:31 [PATCHSET 00/17] tracing/uprobes: Add support for more fetch methods (v9) Namhyung Kim
2013-12-16  4:32 ` [PATCH 16/17] uprobes: Allocate ->utask before handler_chain() for tracing handlers Namhyung Kim
2013-11-27  6:19 [PATCHSET 00/17] tracing/uprobes: Add support for more fetch methods (v7) Namhyung Kim
2013-11-27  6:20 ` [PATCH 16/17] uprobes: Allocate ->utask before handler_chain() for tracing handlers Namhyung Kim

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