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From: Roland Dreier <roland@topspin.com>
To: "Shawn Starr" <spstarr@sh0n.net>
Cc: "'Andrew Morton'" <akpm@digeo.com>, <rml@tech9.net>,
	<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [BUG][2.5.66bk9+] - changes to timers still broken - we don't oops anymore
Date: 06 Apr 2003 13:20:28 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <52u1dbxtrn.fsf@topspin.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <000001c2fc78$5f1df8b0$030aa8c0@unknown>

>>>>> "Shawn" == Shawn Starr <spstarr@sh0n.net> writes:

    Shawn> It just caused sshd to hang. I don't know why Here's what
    Shawn> strace reports: Sshd is stuck in 'D' and a child in zombie
    Shawn> state. The machine has been up for 2 days 18 hours 50 mins.

I may have missed some emails on this topic, so I apologize if this
objection was already answered.  In any case, if you're running with
Andrew's patch that added a del_timer_sync to release_dev(), I think I
see how that could cause problems.  Here's what I said in my previous
email:

  From looking at workqueue.c (especially the comment in
  queue_delayed_work() that says "Increase nr_queued so that the flush
  function knows that there's something pending."), it seems like
  flush_scheduled_work() should wait until even delayed work is done.
  Given that, I don't think the del_timer_sync() should be there --
  wouldn't flush_scheduled_work() block forever, since nr_queued can
  never reach 0 now?

Also, I didn't see an answer to the worry I expressed below:

  I don't see how it's _ever_ safe to call flush_scheduled_work().
  The comment in workqueue.c before flush_workqueue() says "NOTE: if
  work is being added to the queue constantly by some other context
  then this function might block indefinitely."  But
  flush_scheduled_work() is flushing the keventd_wq, which other code
  will definitely add work to.  If we're unlucky,
  flush_scheduled_work() could block forever.  Am I just being
  paranoid?

I admit that flush_scheduled_work() is unlikely to cause problems in
most real world situations, but I'd be curious to know if anyone
thinks this could ever lead to a livelock under some strange condition.

 - Roland

  reply	other threads:[~2003-04-06 20:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-04-06 20:09 [BUG][2.5.66bk9+] - changes to timers still broken - we don't oops anymore Shawn Starr
2003-04-06 20:20 ` Roland Dreier [this message]
2003-04-06 20:38 ` Andrew Morton
2003-04-06 21:00   ` Shawn Starr
2003-04-09  2:12   ` [BUG][2.5.66bk9+] - tty hangings - patches, dmesg & sysctl+T info Shawn Starr
2003-04-09  4:12     ` Andrew Morton
2003-04-09  4:47       ` Roland Dreier
2003-04-09  4:56         ` Andrew Morton
2003-04-09  4:16     ` Roland Dreier
2003-04-09  4:27       ` Andrew Morton
2003-04-09  4:52         ` Roland Dreier
2003-04-09  5:01           ` Shawn Starr

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