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From: "Chuck Lever" <cel@kernel.org>
To: "Jeff Layton" <jlayton@kernel.org>,
	"Chuck Lever" <chuck.lever@oracle.com>,
	NeilBrown <neil@brown.name>,
	"Olga Kornievskaia" <okorniev@redhat.com>,
	"Dai Ngo" <Dai.Ngo@oracle.com>, "Tom Talpey" <tom@talpey.com>,
	"Trond Myklebust" <trondmy@kernel.org>,
	"Anna Schumaker" <anna@kernel.org>
Cc: linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 0/6] nfsd: allow for a dynamically-sized threadpool
Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2025 14:34:48 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <53080a86-df29-4321-8b51-c5af565cc6f2@app.fastmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20251213-nfsd-dynathread-v1-0-de755e59cbc4@kernel.org>



On Fri, Dec 12, 2025, at 5:39 PM, Jeff Layton wrote:
> This patchset changes nfsd to dynamically size its threadpool as
> needed. The main user-visible change is the addition of new controls
> that allow the admin to set a minimum number of threads.
>
> When the minimum is set to a non-zero value, the traditional "threads"
> setting is interpreted as a maximum number of threads instead of a
> static count. The server will start the minimum number of threads, and
> then ramp up the thread count as needed. When the server is idle, it
> will gradually ramp down the thread count.
>
> This control scheme should allow us to sanely switch between kernels
> that do and do not support dynamic threading. In the case where dynamic
> threading is not supported, the user will just get the static maximum
> number of threads.

An important consideration!


> The series is based on a set of draft patches by Neil. There are a
> number of changes from his work:
>
> 1/ his original series was based around a new setting that defined a
> maximum number of threads. This one instead adds a control to define a
> minimum number of threads.

My concern is whether one or more clients can force this mechanism
to continue creating threads until resource exhaustion causes a
denial of service.

I'm not convinced that setting a minimum number of threads is all
that interesting. Can you elaborate on why you chose that design?


-- 
Chuck Lever

  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-12-13 19:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-12-12 22:39 [PATCH RFC 0/6] nfsd: allow for a dynamically-sized threadpool Jeff Layton
2025-12-12 22:39 ` [PATCH RFC 1/6] sunrpc: split svc_set_num_threads() into two functions Jeff Layton
2025-12-13 19:29   ` Chuck Lever
2025-12-13 21:55     ` Jeff Layton
2025-12-12 22:39 ` [PATCH RFC 2/6] sunrpc: remove special handling of NULL pool from svc_start/stop_kthreads() Jeff Layton
2025-12-12 22:39 ` [PATCH RFC 3/6] sunrpc: track the max number of requested threads in a pool Jeff Layton
2025-12-12 22:39 ` [PATCH RFC 4/6] sunrpc: introduce the concept of a minimum number of threads per pool Jeff Layton
2025-12-13 20:19   ` Chuck Lever
2025-12-13 21:38     ` Jeff Layton
2025-12-12 22:39 ` [PATCH RFC 5/6] nfsd: adjust number of running nfsd threads based on activity Jeff Layton
2025-12-13 20:54   ` Chuck Lever
2025-12-13 21:43     ` Jeff Layton
2025-12-12 22:39 ` [PATCH RFC 6/6] nfsd: add controls to set the minimum number of threads per pool Jeff Layton
2025-12-13 21:10   ` Chuck Lever
2025-12-13 21:47     ` Jeff Layton
2025-12-13 19:34 ` Chuck Lever [this message]
2025-12-13 21:35   ` [PATCH RFC 0/6] nfsd: allow for a dynamically-sized threadpool Jeff Layton

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