From: Peter Hurley <peter@hurleysoftware.com>
To: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com>,
"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>, Lai Jiangshan <laijs@cn.fujitsu.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Stefan Richter <stefanr@s5r6.in-berlin.de>,
linux1394-devel@lists.sourceforge.net,
Chris Boot <bootc@bootc.net>,
linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org, target-devel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/9] firewire: don't use PREPARE_DELAYED_WORK
Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2014 17:32:23 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <530A76F7.3010708@hurleysoftware.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1393185948.9743.2.camel@dabdike>
Hi James,
On 02/23/2014 03:05 PM, James Bottomley wrote:
> On Sat, 2014-02-22 at 14:03 -0500, Peter Hurley wrote:
>> If it is necessary for a RELEASE-ACQUIRE pair to produce a full barrier, the
>> ACQUIRE can be followed by an smp_mb__after_unlock_lock() invocation. This
>> will produce a full barrier if either (a) the RELEASE and the ACQUIRE are
>> executed by the same CPU or task, or (b) the RELEASE and ACQUIRE act on the
>> same variable. The smp_mb__after_unlock_lock() primitive is free on many
>> architectures. Without smp_mb__after_unlock_lock(), the critical sections
>> corresponding to the RELEASE and the ACQUIRE can cross:
>>
>> *A = a;
>> RELEASE M
>> ACQUIRE N
>> *B = b;
>>
>> could occur as:
>>
>> ACQUIRE N, STORE *B, STORE *A, RELEASE M
>
> Ah, OK, that's an error in the documentation.
AFAIK, Paul will not be changing the quoted text above.
> The example should read
>
> *A = a;
> RELEASE *N*
> ACQUIRE *M*
> *B = b;
>
> The point being you can't have speculation that entangles critical
> sections, as I've been saying, because that would speculate you into
> ABBA deadlocks. Paul McKenny will submit a patch fixing the bug in
> documentation.
The reason why there is no deadlock here is because the RELEASE M is
not dependent on the ACQUIRE N to complete.
If the attempt to ACQUIRE N is speculated before the RELEASE M, two
possibilities exist:
1. N is not owned, so the ACQUIRE is immediately successful, or
2. N is owned, so the attempted ACQUIRE is not immediately successful.
However, in both cases the RELEASE M will still complete, having already
been started (since it occurred before in the instruction stream).
Regards,
Peter Hurley
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-02-23 22:32 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-02-20 20:44 [PATCHSET wq/for-3.15] workqueue: remove PREPARE_[DELAYED_]WORK() Tejun Heo
2014-02-20 20:44 ` [PATCH 1/9] wireless/rt2x00: don't use PREPARE_WORK in rt2800usb.c Tejun Heo
2014-03-07 15:26 ` Tejun Heo
2014-02-20 20:44 ` [PATCH 2/9] ps3-vuart: don't use PREPARE_WORK Tejun Heo
2014-02-21 23:19 ` Geoff Levand
2014-02-20 20:44 ` [PATCH 3/9] floppy: don't use PREPARE_[DELAYED_]WORK Tejun Heo
2014-02-21 9:37 ` Jiri Kosina
2014-02-20 20:44 ` [PATCH 4/9] firewire: don't use PREPARE_DELAYED_WORK Tejun Heo
2014-02-21 1:44 ` Peter Hurley
2014-02-21 1:59 ` Tejun Heo
2014-02-21 2:07 ` Peter Hurley
2014-02-21 2:13 ` Tejun Heo
2014-02-21 5:13 ` Peter Hurley
2014-02-21 10:03 ` Tejun Heo
2014-02-21 12:51 ` Peter Hurley
2014-02-21 13:06 ` Tejun Heo
2014-02-21 16:53 ` Peter Hurley
2014-02-21 16:57 ` Tejun Heo
2014-02-21 23:01 ` Peter Hurley
2014-02-21 23:18 ` Tejun Heo
2014-02-21 23:46 ` Peter Hurley
2014-02-22 14:38 ` Tejun Heo
2014-02-22 14:48 ` Peter Hurley
2014-02-22 18:43 ` James Bottomley
2014-02-22 18:48 ` Peter Hurley
2014-02-22 18:52 ` James Bottomley
2014-02-22 19:03 ` Peter Hurley
2014-02-23 1:23 ` memory-barriers.txt again (was Re: [PATCH 4/9] firewire: don't use PREPARE_DELAYED_WORK) Stefan Richter
2014-02-23 16:37 ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-02-23 20:35 ` Peter Hurley
2014-02-23 23:50 ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-02-24 0:09 ` Peter Hurley
2014-02-24 16:26 ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-02-24 0:32 ` Stefan Richter
2014-02-24 16:27 ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-02-23 20:05 ` [PATCH 4/9] firewire: don't use PREPARE_DELAYED_WORK James Bottomley
2014-02-23 22:32 ` Peter Hurley [this message]
2014-02-21 20:45 ` Stefan Richter
2014-03-05 21:34 ` Stefan Richter
2014-03-07 15:18 ` Tejun Heo
2014-03-07 15:26 ` [PATCH UPDATED " Tejun Heo
2014-02-20 20:44 ` [PATCH 5/9] usb: " Tejun Heo
2014-02-20 20:59 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2014-02-21 15:06 ` Alan Stern
2014-02-21 15:07 ` Tejun Heo
2014-02-22 14:59 ` [PATCH v2 " Tejun Heo
2014-02-22 15:14 ` Alan Stern
2014-02-22 15:20 ` Peter Hurley
2014-02-22 15:37 ` Tejun Heo
2014-02-22 23:03 ` Alan Stern
2014-02-23 4:29 ` Tejun Heo
2014-02-20 20:44 ` [PATCH 6/9] nvme: don't use PREPARE_WORK Tejun Heo
2014-03-07 15:26 ` Tejun Heo
2014-02-20 20:44 ` [PATCH 7/9] afs: " Tejun Heo
2014-02-20 22:00 ` David Howells
2014-02-20 22:46 ` Tejun Heo
2014-03-07 15:27 ` Tejun Heo
2014-02-20 20:44 ` [PATCH 8/9] staging/fwserial: " Tejun Heo
2014-02-21 15:13 ` Peter Hurley
2014-02-20 20:44 ` [PATCH 9/9] workqueue: remove PREPARE_[DELAYED_]WORK() Tejun Heo
2014-03-07 15:27 ` Tejun Heo
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