From: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
To: Dave Jones <davej@redhat.com>,
Chris Bainbridge <chris.bainbridge@gmail.com>,
x86@kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] x86: set Pentium M as PAE capable
Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2014 09:16:02 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <530CCFD2.3050007@zytor.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140225162611.GA31902@redhat.com>
On 02/25/2014 08:26 AM, Dave Jones wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 02:45:57AM -0800, H. Peter Anvin wrote:
> > On 02/24/2014 10:01 PM, Chris Bainbridge wrote:
> > > Pentium M is PAE capable but does not indicate so in the CPUID response.
> > > This is an issue now that some distributions are no longer shipping
> > > non-PAE kernels (those distributions no longer boot on Pentium M). This
> > > small patch fixes the issue by forcing the PAE capability on Pentium M.
> > >
> > > For more discussion see https://bugs.launchpad.net/baltix/+bug/930447
> > >
> >
> > 1. This patch doesn't match the discussion in the link.
> > 2. You would have to also enable this in the cpu testing code in
> > arch/x86/boot.
> > 3. At the very least we need to print a serious warning that the CPU
> > is being run outside its specifications. I have no personal
> > information about why this CPUID bit was disabled, but it could be
> > that it was discovered in testing that it didn't work correctly in
> > all circumstances (e.g. high temperature.) This is very much "use
> > at your own risk..."; you could get data corruption or even
> > hardware damage.
>
> About six years ago, we almost went down this same path for Fedora,
> and I'm fairly sure the only reason we backed off and decided to not
> pursue it was that we found some Pentium M's where it just didn't work.
>
OK, that *definitely* means that if we're doing this at all we're doing
it via an explicit opt-in on the command line, and tainting the kernel
in the process.
I don't know if anyone (Chris?) is interested enough in the problem to
do such a patch, though. I know I'm not too interested in spending a
bunch of time on.
-hpa
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-02-25 17:16 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-02-25 6:01 [PATCH] x86: set Pentium M as PAE capable Chris Bainbridge
2014-02-25 10:45 ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-02-25 11:35 ` Borislav Petkov
2014-02-25 12:06 ` Peter Hurley
2014-02-25 12:07 ` One Thousand Gnomes
2014-02-25 16:26 ` Dave Jones
2014-02-25 17:16 ` H. Peter Anvin [this message]
2014-02-26 12:12 ` Chris Bainbridge
2014-02-26 13:18 ` Borislav Petkov
2014-02-26 15:49 ` Dave Jones
2014-02-26 17:18 ` Borislav Petkov
2014-02-26 17:20 ` Dave Jones
2014-02-26 17:28 ` Borislav Petkov
2014-02-28 7:30 ` Chris Bainbridge
[not found] ` <CAKKYfmFgVjYwvThpB0FBB+ggOwULWKLpz7ADT1eojno_KtD9yw@mail.gmail.com>
2014-02-28 14:00 ` Chris Bainbridge
2014-03-02 20:56 ` Andreas Mohr
2014-03-02 20:59 ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-03-02 21:02 ` Dave Jones
2014-03-02 21:04 ` Borislav Petkov
2014-03-02 21:13 ` Andreas Mohr
2014-03-02 21:42 ` Gene Heskett
2014-03-03 12:31 ` One Thousand Gnomes
2014-03-03 8:04 ` Chris Bainbridge
2014-03-03 19:29 ` Borislav Petkov
2014-03-04 5:01 ` Chris Bainbridge
2014-03-04 5:04 ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-03-04 6:06 ` Chris Bainbridge
2014-03-04 10:44 ` Borislav Petkov
2014-03-05 4:17 ` Chris Bainbridge
2014-03-07 11:40 ` [PATCH] x86: Add forcepae parameter for booting PAE kernels on PAE-disabled Pentium M Chris Bainbridge
2014-03-10 10:25 ` Borislav Petkov
2014-03-20 23:30 ` [tip:x86/cpu] x86, cpu: " tip-bot for Chris Bainbridge
2014-03-20 23:33 ` tip-bot for Chris Bainbridge
2014-03-20 23:30 ` [tip:x86/cpu] Rename TAINT_UNSAFE_SMP to TAINT_CPU_OUT_OF_SPEC tip-bot for Dave Jones
2014-02-26 16:46 ` [PATCH] x86: set Pentium M as PAE capable H. Peter Anvin
2014-02-26 16:44 ` Matthew Garrett
2014-02-26 16:45 ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-02-26 17:10 ` Matthew Garrett
2014-02-26 17:57 ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-03-03 0:11 ` H. Peter Anvin
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2014-03-02 19:05 Roland Kletzing
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