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From: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
To: Dave Jones <davej@redhat.com>,
	Chris Bainbridge <chris.bainbridge@gmail.com>,
	x86@kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] x86: set Pentium M as PAE capable
Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2014 09:16:02 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <530CCFD2.3050007@zytor.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140225162611.GA31902@redhat.com>

On 02/25/2014 08:26 AM, Dave Jones wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 02:45:57AM -0800, H. Peter Anvin wrote:
>  > On 02/24/2014 10:01 PM, Chris Bainbridge wrote:
>  > > Pentium M is PAE capable but does not indicate so in the CPUID response.
>  > > This is an issue now that some distributions are no longer shipping
>  > > non-PAE kernels (those distributions no longer boot on Pentium M). This
>  > > small patch fixes the issue by forcing the PAE capability on Pentium M.
>  > >
>  > > For more discussion see https://bugs.launchpad.net/baltix/+bug/930447
>  > >
>  > 
>  > 1. This patch doesn't match the discussion in the link.
>  > 2. You would have to also enable this in the cpu testing code in
>  >     arch/x86/boot.
>  > 3. At the very least we need to print a serious warning that the CPU
>  >     is being run outside its specifications.  I have no personal
>  >     information about why this CPUID bit was disabled, but it could be
>  >     that it was discovered in testing that it didn't work correctly in
>  >     all circumstances (e.g. high temperature.)  This is very much "use
>  >     at your own risk..."; you could get data corruption or even
>  >     hardware damage.
> 
> About six years ago, we almost went down this same path for Fedora,
> and I'm fairly sure the only reason we backed off and decided to not
> pursue it was that we found some Pentium M's where it just didn't work.
> 

OK, that *definitely* means that if we're doing this at all we're doing
it via an explicit opt-in on the command line, and tainting the kernel
in the process.

I don't know if anyone (Chris?) is interested enough in the problem to
do such a patch, though.  I know I'm not too interested in spending a
bunch of time on.

	-hpa


  reply	other threads:[~2014-02-25 17:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-02-25  6:01 [PATCH] x86: set Pentium M as PAE capable Chris Bainbridge
2014-02-25 10:45 ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-02-25 11:35   ` Borislav Petkov
2014-02-25 12:06   ` Peter Hurley
2014-02-25 12:07   ` One Thousand Gnomes
2014-02-25 16:26   ` Dave Jones
2014-02-25 17:16     ` H. Peter Anvin [this message]
2014-02-26 12:12       ` Chris Bainbridge
2014-02-26 13:18         ` Borislav Petkov
2014-02-26 15:49           ` Dave Jones
2014-02-26 17:18             ` Borislav Petkov
2014-02-26 17:20               ` Dave Jones
2014-02-26 17:28                 ` Borislav Petkov
2014-02-28  7:30             ` Chris Bainbridge
     [not found]               ` <CAKKYfmFgVjYwvThpB0FBB+ggOwULWKLpz7ADT1eojno_KtD9yw@mail.gmail.com>
2014-02-28 14:00                 ` Chris Bainbridge
2014-03-02 20:56                   ` Andreas Mohr
2014-03-02 20:59                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-03-02 21:02                     ` Dave Jones
2014-03-02 21:04                       ` Borislav Petkov
2014-03-02 21:13                         ` Andreas Mohr
2014-03-02 21:42                       ` Gene Heskett
2014-03-03 12:31                         ` One Thousand Gnomes
2014-03-03  8:04                     ` Chris Bainbridge
2014-03-03 19:29                       ` Borislav Petkov
2014-03-04  5:01                         ` Chris Bainbridge
2014-03-04  5:04                           ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-03-04  6:06                             ` Chris Bainbridge
2014-03-04 10:44                               ` Borislav Petkov
2014-03-05  4:17                                 ` Chris Bainbridge
2014-03-07 11:40                                 ` [PATCH] x86: Add forcepae parameter for booting PAE kernels on PAE-disabled Pentium M Chris Bainbridge
2014-03-10 10:25                                   ` Borislav Petkov
2014-03-20 23:30                                   ` [tip:x86/cpu] x86, cpu: " tip-bot for Chris Bainbridge
2014-03-20 23:33                                   ` tip-bot for Chris Bainbridge
2014-03-20 23:30             ` [tip:x86/cpu] Rename TAINT_UNSAFE_SMP to TAINT_CPU_OUT_OF_SPEC tip-bot for Dave Jones
2014-02-26 16:46           ` [PATCH] x86: set Pentium M as PAE capable H. Peter Anvin
2014-02-26 16:44         ` Matthew Garrett
2014-02-26 16:45           ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-02-26 17:10             ` Matthew Garrett
2014-02-26 17:57               ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-03-03  0:11                 ` H. Peter Anvin
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2014-03-02 19:05 Roland Kletzing

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