From: Peter Hurley <peter@hurleysoftware.com>
To: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>, Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
Cc: Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: The sheer number of sparse warnings in the kernel
Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2014 20:52:03 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <530E9A43.5030003@hurleysoftware.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <530E82B2.3040305@zytor.com>
On 02/26/2014 07:11 PM, H. Peter Anvin wrote:
> On 02/26/2014 03:28 PM, Greg KH wrote:
>>>
>>> What do we need to do to actually make our tools be able to do work for
>>> us? Newbie projects to clean up? Trying to get the larger Linux
>>> companies to put resources on it?
>>
>> It's not the easiest "newbie" project as usually the first reflex to
>> "just cast it away" is wrong for a lot of sparse warnings. I know this
>> from people trying to fix up the sparse warnings in drivers/staging/
>>
>
> I have seen this phenomenon, too. I also see a bunch of sparse warnings
> which are clearly bogus, for example complaining about sizeof(bool) when
> in bits like:
>
> __this_cpu_write(swallow_nmi, false);
>
> So getting this to the point where it is genuinely useful and can be
> made a ubiquitous part of the Linux development process is going to take
> more work and probably involve improvements to sparse so we can indicate
> in the kernel sources when something is okay or removing completely
> bogus warnings, and so on.
>
> The bigger question, again, is what do we need to do to make this
> happen, assuming it is worth doing? We certainly have had bugs,
> including security holes, which sparse would have caught. At the same
> time, this kind of work tends to not be the kind that attract the top
> hackers, unfortunately, as it is not "fun".
Well there was that "should we do a bug-fix-only 4.0 release?" message
from Linus back at the 3.12 release.
Or do like Geert does with the build message regressions/fixes. I always scan
that to make sure none of my work is in it :) (And that could be chunked
up by maintainer).
Just a thought.
Regards,
Peter Hurley
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-02-27 1:52 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-02-26 22:49 The sheer number of sparse warnings in the kernel H. Peter Anvin
2014-02-26 23:25 ` Borislav Petkov
2014-02-27 8:27 ` Richard Weinberger
2014-02-26 23:28 ` Greg KH
2014-02-26 23:29 ` Greg KH
2014-02-26 23:31 ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-02-26 23:37 ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-02-27 1:19 ` Josh Boyer
2014-02-27 1:21 ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-03-04 23:13 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2014-02-27 0:11 ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-02-27 1:34 ` Greg KH
2014-02-27 2:09 ` Joe Perches
2014-02-27 3:15 ` Dave Jones
2014-02-27 4:32 ` Greg KH
2014-02-27 10:11 ` Guenter Roeck
2014-02-27 1:52 ` Peter Hurley [this message]
2014-02-27 4:19 ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-02-27 4:31 ` Greg KH
2014-02-27 9:22 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2014-02-27 0:48 ` Joe Perches
2014-02-27 0:51 ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-02-27 1:06 ` Joe Perches
2014-02-27 1:33 ` [PATCH] err.h: Use bool for IS_ERR and IS_ERR_OR_NULL Joe Perches
2014-02-27 2:03 ` [PATCH] sparse: Allow override of sizeof(bool) warning Joe Perches
2014-02-27 2:08 ` [RFC PATCH] Makefile: sparse - don't check sizeof(bool) Joe Perches
2014-02-27 2:28 ` [PATCH] sparse: Allow override of sizeof(bool) warning Josh Triplett
2014-02-27 2:53 ` [PATCH V2] " Joe Perches
2014-02-27 2:58 ` Josh Triplett
2014-02-27 3:19 ` [PATCH V3] " Joe Perches
2014-02-27 3:29 ` [PATCH V2] " H. Peter Anvin
2014-02-27 3:38 ` Joe Perches
2014-02-27 3:42 ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-02-27 8:25 ` Borislav Petkov
2014-02-27 15:10 ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-02-27 15:24 ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-02-27 15:48 ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-02-27 16:01 ` Borislav Petkov
2014-02-27 16:10 ` Dan Carpenter
2014-02-27 16:52 ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-02-27 17:06 ` James Hogan
2014-02-27 4:00 ` Ben Pfaff
2014-02-27 4:19 ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-02-27 4:26 ` Ben Pfaff
2014-02-27 4:32 ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-02-27 20:22 ` Christopher Li
2014-02-27 20:26 ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-02-27 20:39 ` Joe Perches
2014-02-27 20:55 ` Christopher Li
2014-02-27 21:49 ` Joe Perches
2014-02-27 20:44 ` Christopher Li
2014-02-27 21:00 ` Joe Perches
2014-02-27 21:03 ` Christopher Li
2014-02-27 21:41 ` Christopher Li
2014-02-27 9:56 ` The sheer number of sparse warnings in the kernel Dr. David Alan Gilbert
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