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From: Alex Shi <alex.shi@linaro.org>
To: mingo@redhat.com, peterz@infradead.org, morten.rasmussen@arm.com
Cc: vincent.guittot@linaro.org, daniel.lezcano@linaro.org,
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	mgorman@suse.de
Subject: Re: [ PATCH 0/8] sched: remove cpu_load array
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2014 11:24:46 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <53266AFE.7020008@linaro.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1394690249-14130-1-git-send-email-alex.shi@linaro.org>

On 03/13/2014 01:57 PM, Alex Shi wrote:
> In the cpu_load decay usage, we mixed the long term, short term load with
> balance bias, randomly pick a big/small value from them according to balance 
> destination or source. This mix is wrong, the balance bias should be based
> on task moving cost between cpu groups, not on random history or instant load.
> History load maybe diverage a lot from real load, that lead to incorrect bias.
> 
> In fact, the cpu_load decays can be replaced by the sched_avg decay, that 
> also decays load on time. The balance bias part can fullly use fixed bias --
> imbalance_pct, which is already used in newly idle, wake, forkexec balancing
> and numa balancing scenarios.
> 
> Currently the only working idx is busy_idx and idle_idx.
> As to busy_idx:
> We mix history load decay and bias together. The ridiculous thing is, when 
> all cpu load are continuous stable, long/short term load is same. then we 
> lose the bias meaning, so any minimum imbalance may cause unnecessary task
> moving. To prevent this funny thing happen, we have to reuse the 
> imbalance_pct again in find_busiest_group().  But that clearly causes over
> bias in normal time. If there are some burst load in system, it is more worse.
> 

Any comments?

> As to idle_idx:
> Though I have some cencern of usage corretion, 
> https://lkml.org/lkml/2014/3/12/247, but since we are working on cpu
> idle migration into scheduler. The problem will be reconsidered. We don't
> need to care it now.
> 
> This patch removed the cpu_load idx decay, since it can be replaced by
> sched_avg feature. and left the imbalance_pct bias untouched, since only 
> idle_idx missed it, but it is fine. and will be reconsidered soon.
> 
> 
> V5,
> 1, remove unify bias patch and biased_load function. Thanks for PeterZ's 
> comments!
> 2, remove get_sd_load_idx() in the 1st patch as SrikarD's suggestion.
> 3, remove LB_BIAS feature, it is not needed now.


-- 
Thanks
    Alex

  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-03-17  3:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-03-13  5:57 [ PATCH 0/8] sched: remove cpu_load array Alex Shi
2014-03-13  5:57 ` [PATCH 1/8] sched: shortcut to remove load_idx Alex Shi
2014-03-13  5:57 ` [PATCH 2/8] sched: remove rq->cpu_load[load_idx] array Alex Shi
2014-03-13  5:57 ` [PATCH 3/8] sched: remove source_load and target_load Alex Shi
2014-03-13  5:57 ` [PATCH 4/8] sched: remove LB_BIAS Alex Shi
2014-03-13  5:57 ` [PATCH 5/8] sched: clean up cpu_load update Alex Shi
2014-03-13  5:57 ` [PATCH 6/8] sched: rewrite update_cpu_load_nohz Alex Shi
2014-03-13  5:57 ` [PATCH 7/8] sched: remove rq->cpu_load and rq->nr_load_updates Alex Shi
2014-03-13  5:57 ` [PATCH 8/8] sched: rename update_*_cpu_load Alex Shi
2014-03-17  3:24 ` Alex Shi [this message]
2014-03-18  2:17   ` [ PATCH 0/8] sched: remove cpu_load array Alex Shi

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