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From: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
To: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>
Cc: Peter Wu <peter@lekensteyn.nl>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: GPF in intel_pmu_lbr_reset() with qemu -cpu host
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2014 14:55:24 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <532CB54C.8020003@zytor.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8761n7nryi.fsf@tassilo.jf.intel.com>

On 03/21/2014 02:48 PM, Andi Kleen wrote:
> "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com> writes:
>>
>> That's why at least to some extent The Right Thing is not to try to
>> pretend to be a CPU you don't even know how to emulate.
>>
>> But again, that has its own issues, too, mostly with userspace
>> optimization, and making the Linux code more resilient wouldn't hurt.
>> In that sense #GP(0) is *much* better than 0: it unambiguously gives an
>> error to work with.
> 
> That means we could just throw rdmsr() away and it would be completely
> replaced with rdmsr_safe(). But then that will likely cause all kinds
> of problems with how to handle these errors and where and how to handle
> these exceptions.
> 
> I much prefer just to fix KVM. I cannot think of any case
> where 0 would cause a major issue.
> 
> After all it's virtualization not "rewrite complete kernel for it"
> 

Actually, Ingo, Borislav and I have been discussing making rdmsr_safe()
more of the default, especially for things like this where the error
handling is obvious (doesn't work?  Disable the PMU.)

	-hpa



  reply	other threads:[~2014-03-21 21:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-03-21 17:42 GPF in intel_pmu_lbr_reset() with qemu -cpu host Peter Wu
2014-03-21 17:46 ` Peter Wu
2014-03-21 19:04   ` Venkatesh Srinivas
2014-03-21 19:09     ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-03-22  7:54       ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-03-22  8:50     ` Gleb Natapov
2014-03-22 10:05       ` Peter Wu
2014-03-22 12:27         ` Gleb Natapov
2014-03-22 21:46           ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-03-22 22:00           ` Peter Wu
2014-03-26  7:23             ` Wu, Feng
2014-03-26  9:38               ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-03-21 19:29 ` Andi Kleen
2014-03-21 20:46   ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-03-21 21:37     ` Andi Kleen
2014-03-21 21:41       ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-03-21 21:48         ` Andi Kleen
2014-03-21 21:55           ` H. Peter Anvin [this message]
2014-03-22  0:22             ` Andi Kleen
2014-03-22  0:26               ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-03-22  0:30                 ` Andi Kleen
2014-03-22  0:34                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-03-22 10:01                     ` Borislav Petkov

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