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From: Preeti U Murthy <preeti@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Hidetoshi Seto <seto.hidetoshi@jp.fujitsu.com>
Cc: Preeti Murthy <preeti.lkml@gmail.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Fernando Luis Vazquez Cao <fernando_b1@lab.ntt.co.jp>,
	Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@i-love.sakura.ne.jp>,
	Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Arjan van de Ven <arjan@linux.intel.com>,
	Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] nohz: use seqlock to avoid race on idle time stats
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2014 10:57:32 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <533113C4.2000007@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <532FEB03.20600@jp.fujitsu.com>

On 03/24/2014 01:51 PM, Hidetoshi Seto wrote:
> (2014/03/24 16:45), Preeti Murthy wrote:
>> Hi Hidetoshi,
>>
>> The patch looks good to me except the comments around the monotonicity
>> of the return value of the idle stats observer. I am unable to relate them
>> to the dependency on nr_iowait_cpu.
>>
>> I see that when the reader queries for the idle stats and calls
>> get_cpu_idle_time_us(), the nr_iowait_cpu might be 0. When he later
>> queries get_cpu_iowait_time_us(), it may be >0 . Hence we will be
>> accounting for the idle time in both idle time and iowait time. This
>> is definitely a problem. But I do not understand what this has got to
>> do with the monotonicity of the time
>> returned. This is just for my understanding.
> 
> Thank you for your comment!
> 
> Ah yes, I think I could write better comments around here to clarify
> the monotonicity problem. (It will be happy if someone can give me
> such better sentence for here :-D)
> 
> One important point is that readers do not update idle stats when they
> use these function. i.e.
> 
> given:
>    idle stats:  idle=1000, iowait=100
>    stamp at idle entry: entry=50
>    nr tasks waiting io: nr_iowait=1
> 
> 1st reader:
>    query @ now=60
>      idle=1000
>      iowait=110 (=100+(60-50))
> 
> (here nr_iowait changed to 0)
> 
> 2nd reader:
>    query @ now=70
>      idle=1020 (=1000+(70-50))
>      iowait=100
> 
> So you will see iowait is decreased from 110 to 100.

Ah ok! I get it. Please do add my Reviewed-by to it.

> 
> I hope this short story helps you.

Thanks!

Regards
Preeti U Murthy
> 
> Thanks,
> H.Seto
> 


  reply	other threads:[~2014-03-25  5:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-03-24  3:05 [PATCH 0/2] nohz: fix idle accounting in NO_HZ kernels Hidetoshi Seto
2014-03-24  3:10 ` [PATCH 1/2] nohz: use seqlock to avoid race on idle time stats Hidetoshi Seto
2014-03-24  7:45   ` Preeti Murthy
2014-03-24  8:21     ` Hidetoshi Seto
2014-03-25  5:27       ` Preeti U Murthy [this message]
2014-03-24  3:10 ` [PATCH 2/2] nohz, procfs: introduce get_cpu_idle/iowait_time_coarse Hidetoshi Seto

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