From: David Daney <ddaney.cavm@gmail.com>
To: Mateusz Guzik <mguzik@redhat.com>
Cc: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>, Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>, Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
Kay Sievers <kay@vrfy.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] cmdline: Hide "debug" from /proc/cmdline
Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2014 15:30:13 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <533C8F75.9000301@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140402221212.GD16570@mguzik.redhat.com>
On 04/02/2014 03:12 PM, Mateusz Guzik wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 02, 2014 at 02:42:19PM -0400, Steven Rostedt wrote:
>> It has come to our attention that a system running a specific user
>> space init program will not boot if you add "debug" to the kernel
>> command line. What happens is that the user space tool parses the
>> kernel command line, and if it sees "debug" it will spit out so much
>> information that the system fails to boot. This basically renders the
>> "debug" option for the kernel useless.
>>
>> This bug has been reported to the developers of said tool
>> here:
>>
>> https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=76935
>>
>> The response is:
>>
>> "Generic terms are generic, not the first user owns them."
>>
>> That is, the "debug" statement on the *kernel* command line is not
>> owned by the kernel just because it was the first user of it, and
>> they refuse to fix their bug.
>>
>> Well, my response is, we OWN the kernel command line, and as such, we
>> can keep the users from seeing stuff on it if we so choose. And with
>> that, I propose this patch, which hides "debug" from /proc/cmdline,
>> such that we don't have to worry about tools parsing for it and causing
>> hardship for those trying to debug the kernel.
>>
>
> Well, parsing kernel cmdline by systemd is a bad idea, and hiding
> "debug" is even worse. What will happen when the next keyword clashes?
> And how should I check the kernel is booted with "debug"?
>
> If there is a real need to pass arguments to systemd, how about a
> dedicated option (initargs= or whatever, where it has to be last in
> cmdline), then systemd would be spawned with these arguments and would
> just go over its argv.
>
What if systemd only parsed kernel command line arguments of the form:
... systemd.arg_foo systemd.arg_bar=x ...
Then it wouldn't get confused by arguments that weren't directly
targeted at it.
There is precedence for this form, as it is what we already use for
built-in modules. As a bonus, we would be ready for when systemd is
integrated into the kernel as a module itself.
Thanks,
David Daney
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-04-02 22:30 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 74+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-04-02 18:42 [RFC PATCH] cmdline: Hide "debug" from /proc/cmdline Steven Rostedt
2014-04-02 18:57 ` Linus Torvalds
2014-04-02 19:04 ` Andrew Morton
2014-04-02 19:05 ` Borislav Petkov
2014-04-02 19:08 ` Randy Dunlap
2014-04-02 19:50 ` Thomas Gleixner
2014-04-02 20:05 ` Richard Weinberger
2014-04-02 20:43 ` Thomas Gleixner
2014-04-02 22:18 ` Greg KH
2014-04-02 19:08 ` Borislav Petkov
2014-04-02 19:33 ` Steven Rostedt
2014-04-02 22:12 ` Mateusz Guzik
2014-04-02 22:30 ` David Daney [this message]
2014-04-02 22:37 ` Greg KH
2014-04-02 23:13 ` Linus Torvalds
2014-04-02 23:23 ` Jiri Kosina
2014-04-02 23:28 ` Andrew Morton
2014-04-02 23:42 ` Linus Torvalds
2014-04-02 23:47 ` Jiri Kosina
2014-04-02 23:52 ` Linus Torvalds
2014-04-02 23:57 ` Jiri Kosina
2014-04-03 1:38 ` Steven Rostedt
2014-04-03 1:47 ` Linus Torvalds
2014-04-03 9:03 ` Borislav Petkov
2014-04-03 10:43 ` Joerg Roedel
2014-04-03 17:05 ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-04-03 17:09 ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-04-03 17:18 ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-04-03 19:19 ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-04-04 18:21 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-04-04 18:32 ` Linus Torvalds
2014-04-04 18:57 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-04-04 19:09 ` Linus Torvalds
2014-04-04 21:17 ` John Stoffel
2014-04-04 23:17 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2014-04-05 14:37 ` John Stoffel
2014-04-05 23:23 ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-04-04 18:42 ` Linus Torvalds
2014-04-04 18:51 ` Andrew Morton
2014-04-04 18:57 ` Linus Torvalds
2014-04-06 20:49 ` David Timothy Strauss
2014-05-06 9:38 ` Felipe Contreras
2014-04-04 19:44 ` Steven Rostedt
2014-04-04 20:17 ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-04-04 22:45 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2014-04-04 22:48 ` Linus Torvalds
2014-04-04 19:00 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-04-03 11:23 ` Borislav Petkov
2014-04-03 11:38 ` Ingo Molnar
2014-04-15 7:26 ` Borislav Petkov
2014-04-03 10:34 ` Måns Rullgård
2014-04-03 11:03 ` Borislav Petkov
2014-04-06 17:19 ` One Thousand Gnomes
2014-05-06 9:47 ` Felipe Contreras
2014-04-02 23:47 ` Joe Perches
2014-04-02 23:31 ` Linus Torvalds
2014-04-03 11:25 ` Måns Rullgård
2014-04-03 15:17 ` Tim Bird
2014-04-03 18:06 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2014-05-06 9:35 ` Felipe Contreras
2014-04-07 4:54 ` Rusty Russell
2014-05-02 22:34 ` Andrew Morton
2014-05-05 2:17 ` Rusty Russell
2014-05-05 13:15 ` Randy Dunlap
2014-05-06 0:57 ` Rusty Russell
2014-05-19 8:06 ` Diego Viola
2014-05-19 8:11 ` Diego Viola
2014-05-19 14:40 ` Randy Dunlap
2014-05-20 1:26 ` Rusty Russell
2014-05-20 6:26 ` Diego Viola
2014-05-21 1:52 ` Rusty Russell
2014-04-03 0:49 ` Steven Rostedt
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2014-04-23 15:15 Borislav Petkov
2014-04-23 20:44 ` Borislav Petkov
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