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From: Masami Hiramatsu <masami.hiramatsu.pt@hitachi.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	Alexei Starovoitov <ast@plumgrid.com>,
	Jovi Zhangwei <jovi.zhangwei@gmail.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
	Daniel Borkmann <dborkman@redhat.com>,
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@infradead.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Jiri Olsa <jolsa@redhat.com>,
	Geoff.Levand@huawei.com
Subject: Re: Re: [RFC PATCH 00/28] ktap: A lightweight dynamic tracing tool for Linux
Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2014 16:40:36 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5343A7F4.80702@hitachi.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140407135519.GJ10526@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net>

(2014/04/07 22:55), Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 02, 2014 at 09:42:03AM +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote:
>> I'd suggest using C syntax instead initially, because that's what the 
>> kernel is using.
>>
>> The overwhelming majority of people probing the kernel are 
>> programmers, so there's no point in inventing new syntax, we should 
>> reuse existing syntax!
> 
> Yes please, keep it C, I forever forget all other syntaxes. While I have
> in the past known other languages, I never use them frequently enough to
> remember them. And there's nothing more frustrating than having to fight
> a tool/language when you just want to get work done.

Why wouldn't you write a kernel module in C directly? :)
It seems that all what you need is not a tracing language nor a bytecode
engine, but an well organized tracing APIs(library?) for writing a kernel
module for tracing...

Thank you,

-- 
Masami HIRAMATSU
Software Platform Research Dept. Linux Technology Center
Hitachi, Ltd., Yokohama Research Laboratory
E-mail: masami.hiramatsu.pt@hitachi.com



  reply	other threads:[~2014-04-08  7:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-03-28 13:47 [RFC PATCH 00/28] ktap: A lightweight dynamic tracing tool for Linux Jovi Zhangwei
2014-03-28 13:47 ` [PATCH 01/28] ktap: add README file Jovi Zhangwei
2014-03-28 13:47 ` [PATCH 02/28] ktap: add ktap tutorial Jovi Zhangwei
2014-03-28 13:47 ` [PATCH 03/28] ktap: add sample scripts Jovi Zhangwei
2014-03-28 13:47 ` [PATCH 04/28] ktap: add basic ktap types definition Jovi Zhangwei
2014-03-28 13:47 ` [PATCH 05/28] ktap: add bytecode definition Jovi Zhangwei
2014-03-28 13:47 ` [PATCH 06/28] ktap: add include/ktap_arch.h and error header file Jovi Zhangwei
2014-03-28 13:47 ` [PATCH 07/28] ktap: add runtime/ktap.[c|h] Jovi Zhangwei
2014-03-28 18:38   ` Andi Kleen
2014-03-29  7:32     ` Jovi Zhangwei
2014-03-29 17:04       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2014-03-30  7:26         ` Jovi Zhangwei
2014-03-28 13:47 ` [PATCH 08/28] ktap: add runtime/kp_bcread.[c|h] Jovi Zhangwei
2014-03-28 13:47 ` [PATCH 09/28] ktap: add runtime/kp_vm.[c|h] Jovi Zhangwei
2014-03-28 13:47 ` [PATCH 10/28] ktap: add runtime/kp_str.[c|h] and runtime/kp_mempool.[c|h] Jovi Zhangwei
2014-03-28 13:47 ` [PATCH 11/28] ktap: add runtime/kp_tab.[c|h] Jovi Zhangwei
2014-03-28 13:47 ` [PATCH 12/28] ktap: add runtime/kp_obj.[c|h] Jovi Zhangwei
2014-03-28 13:47 ` [PATCH 13/28] ktap: add runtime/kp_transport.[c|h] Jovi Zhangwei
2014-03-28 13:47 ` [PATCH 14/28] ktap: add runtime/kp_events.[c|h] Jovi Zhangwei
2014-03-31  9:10   ` Masami Hiramatsu
2014-03-31 10:14     ` Jovi Zhangwei
2014-04-01  6:59       ` Masami Hiramatsu
2014-04-01  7:28         ` Jovi Zhangwei
2014-04-01  8:05           ` Masami Hiramatsu
2014-03-28 13:47 ` [PATCH 15/28] ktap: add built-in functions and library (runtime/lib_*.c) Jovi Zhangwei
2014-03-28 18:51   ` Andi Kleen
2014-03-29  4:15     ` Jovi Zhangwei
2014-03-30  0:58       ` Andi Kleen
2014-03-31  2:01         ` Jovi Zhangwei
2014-03-31 13:13           ` Andi Kleen
2014-04-02  1:44             ` Jovi Zhangwei
2014-03-28 13:47 ` [PATCH 16/28] ktap: add runtime/amalg.c Jovi Zhangwei
2014-03-28 18:52   ` Andi Kleen
2014-03-29  7:38     ` Jovi Zhangwei
2014-03-28 13:47 ` [PATCH 17/28] ktap: add userspace/kp_main.c Jovi Zhangwei
2014-03-28 13:47 ` [PATCH 18/28] ktap: add compiler(userspace/kp_lex.[c|h] and userspace/kp_parse.[c|h]) Jovi Zhangwei
2014-03-28 13:47 ` [PATCH 19/28] ktap: add userspace/symbol.[c|h] Jovi Zhangwei
2014-04-01  7:28   ` Masami Hiramatsu
2014-03-28 13:47 ` [PATCH 20/28] ktap: add userspace/kp_parse_events.c Jovi Zhangwei
2014-03-28 13:47 ` [PATCH 21/28] ktap: add userspace/kp_reader.c Jovi Zhangwei
2014-03-28 13:47 ` [PATCH 22/28] ktap: add userspace/kp_bcwrite.c Jovi Zhangwei
2014-03-28 13:47 ` [PATCH 23/28] ktap: add userspace/kp_util.c Jovi Zhangwei
2014-03-28 13:47 ` [PATCH 24/28] ktap: add Makefile Jovi Zhangwei
2014-03-28 13:47 ` [PATCH 25/28] ktap: add Kconfig Jovi Zhangwei
2014-03-28 13:47 ` [PATCH 26/28] ktap: add testsuite Jovi Zhangwei
2014-03-28 13:47 ` [PATCH 27/28] ktap: add vim syntax file Jovi Zhangwei
2014-03-28 13:47 ` [PATCH 28/28] ktap: add COPYRIGHT file Jovi Zhangwei
2014-03-28 16:08 ` [RFC PATCH 00/28] ktap: A lightweight dynamic tracing tool for Linux Greg Kroah-Hartman
2014-03-29  1:46   ` Jovi Zhangwei
2014-03-31  7:17 ` Ingo Molnar
2014-03-31 10:01   ` Jovi Zhangwei
2014-03-31 21:29     ` Alexei Starovoitov
2014-04-01  4:47       ` Jovi Zhangwei
2014-04-02  4:57         ` Alexei Starovoitov
2014-04-02  6:37           ` Jovi Zhangwei
2014-04-02  7:43             ` Ingo Molnar
2014-04-02  8:49               ` Jovi Zhangwei
2014-04-04  7:36                 ` Ingo Molnar
2014-04-08  6:50                   ` Jovi Zhangwei
2014-04-14 15:11                     ` Ingo Molnar
2014-04-14 15:28                       ` Daniel Borkmann
2014-04-02  7:42           ` Ingo Molnar
2014-04-07 13:55             ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-04-08  7:40               ` Masami Hiramatsu [this message]
2014-04-08  9:08                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-04-02  7:36         ` Ingo Molnar
2014-03-31 20:06   ` Daniel Borkmann
2014-03-31  9:18 ` Masami Hiramatsu

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