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From: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Cc: David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>,
	Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>,
	"mika.westerberg@linux.intel.com"
	<mika.westerberg@linux.intel.com>,
	"Koul, Vinod" <vinod.koul@intel.com>,
	"Krogerus, Heikki" <heikki.krogerus@intel.com>,
	Andy Shevchenko <andriy.shevchenko@linux.intel.com>,
	Viresh Kumar <viresh.kumar@st.com>,
	Kukjin Kim <kgene.kim@samsung.com>,
	Linus Walleij <linus.walleij@stericsson.com>,
	yuanyabin1978@sina.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Ben Dooks <ben-linux@fluff.org>,
	Peter Pearse <peter.pearse@arm.com>,
	Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
	Alessandro Rubini <rubini@unipv.it>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 06/13] DMAENGINE: driver for the ARM PL080/PL081 PrimeCells
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2014 15:11:57 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5345792.VhzckVI5HA@wuerfel> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1394459790.2270.39.camel@shinybook.infradead.org>

On Monday 10 March 2014 06:56:30 David Woodhouse wrote:
> It is not impossible for the DMA controller to "delegate" transactions
> so that (to the IOMMU) they appear to come from the individual slave
> device rather than from itself.
> 
> The Intel IOMMU has now gained support for DMA mapping for devices
> enumerated by ACPI — essentially the ACPI "DMAR" table just has a lookup
> table of ACPI device paths, and tells us the PCI bus/devfn that their
> DMA transactions will *appear* to be from.

This makes a lot of sense for standalone DMA masters enumerated by ACPI,
but I fail to see what the purpose of that would be when the DMA
is delegated to a separate DMA engine devices. Do you have an idea?

It sounds to me that they are trying to isolate the DMA masters
because the slave driver is not trusted for some reason, yet the
DMA engine driver that does the DMA is trusted.

> Of course, it's also possible that all these BIOSes are broken and they
> *should* just list the DMA controller itself, instead of all the slave
> devices. But while I'm always quick to jump to the conclusion that it's
> the BIOS at fault, that doesn't necessarily seem likely here...

It would be good to verify this anyway. There are multiple reasons why
we have to pass the dmaengine device to the dma-mapping API at the moment
rather than the slave device, but in essence it comes down to the engine
being the one that is the master on its parent bus. A trivial example
where it goes wrong would be the slave living on a 32-bit noncoherent bus
and the master living on a 64-bit coherent bus.

	Arnd

  reply	other threads:[~2014-03-10 14:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-06-11 15:27 [PATCH 06/13] DMAENGINE: driver for the ARM PL080/PL081 PrimeCells Linus Walleij
2010-06-14  6:02 ` Viresh KUMAR
2010-06-14 13:39   ` Linus Walleij
2010-06-15  5:25     ` Viresh KUMAR
2010-06-15 20:14       ` Linus WALLEIJ
2010-06-16  3:59         ` Viresh KUMAR
2010-06-16  6:38           ` Linus Walleij
2010-06-15 10:25 ` Kukjin Kim
2010-06-15 10:45   ` Jassi Brar
2010-06-15 11:17     ` Maurus Cuelenaere
2010-06-15 11:39       ` Jassi Brar
2010-06-15 12:04         ` Maurus Cuelenaere
2010-06-15 20:55     ` Linus WALLEIJ
2010-12-21 18:20 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-12-21 22:25   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-12-22 12:22   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-12-22 12:29   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-12-22 23:45     ` Dan Williams
2010-12-22 23:54       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-12-23  0:53         ` Dan Williams
2010-12-23  0:10       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-12-23  1:11         ` Dan Williams
2010-12-23  1:31           ` Dan Williams
2010-12-31 21:50             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-02  9:42               ` Dan Williams
2011-01-02 11:22                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-02 20:33               ` Linus Walleij
2011-01-03 11:14                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-12-23  9:18           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-12-23  8:17       ` Linus Walleij
2010-12-23  8:30         ` Jassi Brar
2010-12-23 12:30         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-12-28  0:33           ` Linus Walleij
2011-01-01 15:15       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-02 20:29         ` Linus Walleij
2014-03-10 13:56         ` David Woodhouse
2014-03-10 14:11           ` Arnd Bergmann [this message]
2014-03-10 14:27             ` David Woodhouse
2014-03-10 14:40               ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-03-10 14:32           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-03-10 14:52             ` David Woodhouse
2014-03-13  8:17               ` Linus Walleij
2014-03-13  8:52                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-03-13 14:35                   ` Linus Walleij
2011-01-01 15:36       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-03 15:19       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-04  0:41         ` Jassi Brar
2011-01-04 10:47         ` Linus Walleij

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