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From: Li Zefan <lizefan@huawei.com>
To: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
Cc: <containers@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
	<cgroups@vger.kernel.org>, <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	<john@johnmccutchan.com>, <rlove@rlove.org>,
	<eparis@parisplace.org>, <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	<serge.hallyn@ubuntu.com>, <lennart@poettering.net>,
	<kay@vrfy.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/3] cgroup: implement cgroup.subtree_populated for the default hierarchy
Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2014 10:48:02 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <534DEF62.4090900@huawei.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1397511846-2904-4-git-send-email-tj@kernel.org>

Hi Tejun,

On 2014/4/15 5:44, Tejun Heo wrote:
> cgroup users often need a way to determine when a cgroup's
> subhierarchy becomes empty so that it can be cleaned up.  cgroup
> currently provides release_agent for it; unfortunately, this mechanism
> is riddled with issues.
> 
> * It delivers events by forking and execing a userland binary
>   specified as the release_agent.  This is a long deprecated method of
>   notification delivery.  It's extremely heavy, slow and cumbersome to
>   integrate with larger infrastructure.
> 
> * There is single monitoring point at the root.  There's no way to
>   delegate management of subtree.
> 
> * The event isn't recursive.  It triggers when a cgroup doesn't have
>   any tasks or child cgroups.  Events for internal nodes trigger only
>   after all children are removed.  This again makes it impossible to
>   delegate management of subtree.
> 
> * Events are filtered from the kernel side.  "notify_on_release" file
>   is used to subscribe to or suppress release event.  This is
>   unnecessarily complicated and probably done this way because event
>   delivery itself was expensive.
> 
> This patch implements interface file "cgroup.subtree_populated" which
> can be used to monitor whether the cgroup's subhierarchy has tasks in
> it or not.  Its value is 0 if there is no task in the cgroup and its
> descendants; otherwise, 1, and kernfs_notify() notificaiton is
> triggers when the value changes, which can be monitored through poll
> and [di]notify.
> 

For the old notification mechanism, the path of the cgroup that becomes
empty will be passed to the user specified release agent. Like this:

# cat /sbin/cpuset_release_agent
#!/bin/sh
rmdir /dev/cpuset/$1

How do we achieve this using inotify?

- monitor all the cgroups, or
- monitor all the leaf cgroups, and travel cgrp->parent to delete all
  empty cgroups.
- monitor root cgroup only, and travel the whole hierarchy to find
  empy cgroups when it gets an fs event.

Seems none of them is scalible.

> This is a lot ligther and simpler and trivially allows delegating
> management of subhierarchy - subhierarchy monitoring can block further
> propgation simply by putting itself or another process in the root of
> the subhierarchy and monitor events that it's interested in from there
> without interfering with monitoring higher in the tree.
> 
> v2: Patch description updated as per Serge.
> 


  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-04-16  2:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-04-14 21:44 [PATCHSET cgroup/for-3.16] cgroup: implement cgroup.populated, v2 Tejun Heo
2014-04-14 21:44 ` [PATCH 1/3] kernfs: implement kernfs_root->supers list Tejun Heo
2014-04-14 21:44 ` [PATCH 2/3] kernfs: make kernfs_notify() trigger inotify events too Tejun Heo
2014-04-14 21:44 ` [PATCH 3/3] cgroup: implement cgroup.subtree_populated for the default hierarchy Tejun Heo
2014-04-15  0:57   ` Li Zefan
2014-04-15 14:54     ` Tejun Heo
2014-04-15 16:52       ` Tejun Heo
2014-04-16  1:30         ` Li Zefan
2014-04-16  2:48   ` Li Zefan [this message]
2014-04-16  3:33     ` Kay Sievers
2014-04-16  3:50       ` Eric W. Biederman
2014-04-16  4:15         ` Kay Sievers
2014-04-16  4:20         ` Li Zefan
2014-04-16  4:16       ` Li Zefan
2014-04-16 14:50   ` [PATCH v3 3/3] cgroup: implement cgroup.populated " Tejun Heo
2014-04-17  1:23     ` Li Zefan
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2014-04-09 15:07 [PATCHSET cgroup/for-3.16] cgroup: implement cgroup.populated Tejun Heo
2014-04-09 15:07 ` [PATCH 3/3] cgroup: implement cgroup.subtree_populated for the default hierarchy Tejun Heo
2014-04-10  3:08   ` Serge E. Hallyn
2014-04-10 13:08     ` Tejun Heo
2014-04-10 14:04       ` Serge Hallyn
2014-04-10 14:19         ` Tejun Heo
2014-04-11  9:00           ` Li Zefan

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