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From: Li Zefan <lizefan@huawei.com>
To: Kay Sievers <kay@vrfy.org>
Cc: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
	<containers@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
	<cgroups@vger.kernel.org>, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	<john@johnmccutchan.com>, <rlove@rlove.org>,
	<eparis@parisplace.org>,
	"Greg Kroah-Hartman" <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	<serge.hallyn@ubuntu.com>,
	Lennart Poettering <lennart@poettering.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/3] cgroup: implement cgroup.subtree_populated for the default hierarchy
Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2014 12:16:52 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <534E0434.2090403@huawei.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAPXgP12kvPdX0QExwN2JphDfEW=d+7K2c_Y8DbomGd=YVy=VGQ@mail.gmail.com>

On 2014/4/16 11:33, Kay Sievers wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 7:48 PM, Li Zefan <lizefan@huawei.com> wrote:
>> On 2014/4/15 5:44, Tejun Heo wrote:
>>> cgroup users often need a way to determine when a cgroup's
>>> subhierarchy becomes empty so that it can be cleaned up.  cgroup
>>> currently provides release_agent for it; unfortunately, this mechanism
>>> is riddled with issues.
>>>
>>> * It delivers events by forking and execing a userland binary
>>>   specified as the release_agent.  This is a long deprecated method of
>>>   notification delivery.  It's extremely heavy, slow and cumbersome to
>>>   integrate with larger infrastructure.
>>>
>>> * There is single monitoring point at the root.  There's no way to
>>>   delegate management of subtree.
>>>
>>> * The event isn't recursive.  It triggers when a cgroup doesn't have
>>>   any tasks or child cgroups.  Events for internal nodes trigger only
>>>   after all children are removed.  This again makes it impossible to
>>>   delegate management of subtree.
>>>
>>> * Events are filtered from the kernel side.  "notify_on_release" file
>>>   is used to subscribe to or suppress release event.  This is
>>>   unnecessarily complicated and probably done this way because event
>>>   delivery itself was expensive.
>>>
>>> This patch implements interface file "cgroup.subtree_populated" which
>>> can be used to monitor whether the cgroup's subhierarchy has tasks in
>>> it or not.  Its value is 0 if there is no task in the cgroup and its
>>> descendants; otherwise, 1, and kernfs_notify() notificaiton is
>>> triggers when the value changes, which can be monitored through poll
>>> and [di]notify.
>>>
>>
>> For the old notification mechanism, the path of the cgroup that becomes
>> empty will be passed to the user specified release agent. Like this:
>>
>> # cat /sbin/cpuset_release_agent
>> #!/bin/sh
>> rmdir /dev/cpuset/$1
>>
>> How do we achieve this using inotify?
>>
>> - monitor all the cgroups, or
>> - monitor all the leaf cgroups, and travel cgrp->parent to delete all
>>   empty cgroups.
>> - monitor root cgroup only, and travel the whole hierarchy to find
>>   empy cgroups when it gets an fs event.
>>
>> Seems none of them is scalible.
> 
> The manager would add all cgroups as watches to one inotify file
> descriptor, it should not be problem to do that.
> 

Never use inotify. Thanks for explanation, so I think inotify can scale
to thounsands of cgroups after I googled a bit.


  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-04-16  4:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-04-14 21:44 [PATCHSET cgroup/for-3.16] cgroup: implement cgroup.populated, v2 Tejun Heo
2014-04-14 21:44 ` [PATCH 1/3] kernfs: implement kernfs_root->supers list Tejun Heo
2014-04-14 21:44 ` [PATCH 2/3] kernfs: make kernfs_notify() trigger inotify events too Tejun Heo
2014-04-14 21:44 ` [PATCH 3/3] cgroup: implement cgroup.subtree_populated for the default hierarchy Tejun Heo
2014-04-15  0:57   ` Li Zefan
2014-04-15 14:54     ` Tejun Heo
2014-04-15 16:52       ` Tejun Heo
2014-04-16  1:30         ` Li Zefan
2014-04-16  2:48   ` Li Zefan
2014-04-16  3:33     ` Kay Sievers
2014-04-16  3:50       ` Eric W. Biederman
2014-04-16  4:15         ` Kay Sievers
2014-04-16  4:20         ` Li Zefan
2014-04-16  4:16       ` Li Zefan [this message]
2014-04-16 14:50   ` [PATCH v3 3/3] cgroup: implement cgroup.populated " Tejun Heo
2014-04-17  1:23     ` Li Zefan
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2014-04-09 15:07 [PATCHSET cgroup/for-3.16] cgroup: implement cgroup.populated Tejun Heo
2014-04-09 15:07 ` [PATCH 3/3] cgroup: implement cgroup.subtree_populated for the default hierarchy Tejun Heo
2014-04-10  3:08   ` Serge E. Hallyn
2014-04-10 13:08     ` Tejun Heo
2014-04-10 14:04       ` Serge Hallyn
2014-04-10 14:19         ` Tejun Heo
2014-04-11  9:00           ` Li Zefan

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