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From: Lai Jiangshan <laijs@cn.fujitsu.com>
To: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
Cc: <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Jean Delvare <jdelvare@suse.de>,
	Monam Agarwal <monamagarwal123@gmail.com>,
	Jeff Layton <jlayton@redhat.com>,
	Andreas Gruenbacher <agruen@linbit.com>,
	Stephen Hemminger <stephen@networkplumber.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 6/8] idr: avoid ping-pong
Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2014 18:43:41 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5352535D.8030407@cn.fujitsu.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140418171717.GE23576@htj.dyndns.org>

On 04/19/2014 01:17 AM, Tejun Heo wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 08:49:53PM +0800, Lai Jiangshan wrote:
>> The ida callers always calls ida_pre_get() before ida_get_new*().
>> ida_pre_get() will do layer allocation, and ida_get_new*() will do layer removal.
>>
>> It causes an unneeded ping-pong. The speculative layer removal in
>> ida_get_new*() can't result expected optimization.
>>
>> So we remove the unneeded layer removal in ida_get_new*().
> 
> But the as comment says, ida doesn't want to keep extra layers around
> as it wants to keep its memory footprint minimal.  

It only frees one layer. And the ida_pre_get() for the next ida_get_new*()
will allocation it back again. The aim "Throw away extra resources one by one"
can't be achieved. It can't keep its memory footprint minimal.


> I think the right
> thing to do is implementing ida_preload() which is simliar to
> idr_preload() and do away with per-ida layer cache.

Yes and no.

We need a static private ida_preload() for ida_simple_get() only.

Because the IDA doesn't have any query-function, so IDA's own synchronization
is enough for all use cases, IDA should off-loads the caller's
synchronization burden.

In my todo-list, IDA only needs the following functions. other functions
will be deprecated and scheduled to be removed:
	void ida_destroy(struct ida *ida);
	void ida_init(struct ida *ida);
	int ida_simple_get(struct ida *ida, unsigned int start, unsigned int end,
			   gfp_t gfp_mask);
	void ida_simple_remove(struct ida *ida, unsigned int id);

(I don't think we need any query-function, But...)
If in the future we need some query-functions such as:
	ida_is_this_id_allocated()
	ida_find_next_[un]allocated_id(),
In this case, we can expose the ida_preload() and ida_alloc() at the same time that
we introduce the query-functions.

Any thought?

But we need to remove this unneeded ping-pong despite of any plan.

Thanks,
Lai

  reply	other threads:[~2014-04-19 10:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-04-18 12:49 [PATCH 0/8] idr: fix & cleanup Lai Jiangshan
2014-04-18 12:49 ` [PATCH 1/8] idr: fix overflow bug for the max-high layer Lai Jiangshan
2014-04-18 16:29   ` Tejun Heo
2014-04-18 17:08     ` Lai Jiangshan
2014-04-18 17:10       ` Tejun Heo
2014-04-18 12:49 ` [PATCH 2/8] idr: fix unexpected id-removal when idr_remove(unallocated_id) Lai Jiangshan
2014-04-18 16:57   ` Tejun Heo
2014-04-18 12:49 ` [PATCH 3/8] idr: fix NULL pointer dereference when ida_remove(unallocated_id) Lai Jiangshan
2014-04-18 17:09   ` Tejun Heo
2014-04-18 12:49 ` [PATCH 4/8] idr: fix idr_replace()'s returned error code Lai Jiangshan
2014-04-18 17:12   ` Tejun Heo
2014-04-18 12:49 ` [PATCH 5/8] idr: covert BUG_ON() to WARN_ON_ONCE() if the argument is invalid Lai Jiangshan
2014-04-18 17:14   ` Tejun Heo
2014-04-18 12:49 ` [PATCH 6/8] idr: avoid ping-pong Lai Jiangshan
2014-04-18 17:17   ` Tejun Heo
2014-04-19 10:43     ` Lai Jiangshan [this message]
2014-04-19 13:01       ` Tejun Heo
2014-04-19 14:23         ` Lai Jiangshan
2014-04-18 12:49 ` [PATCH 7/8] idr: don't need to shink the free list when idr_remove() Lai Jiangshan
2014-04-18 17:19   ` Tejun Heo
2014-04-18 12:49 ` [PATCH 8/8] idr: reduce the unneeded check in free_layer() Lai Jiangshan
2014-04-18 17:21   ` Tejun Heo
2014-04-19 11:38 ` [PATCH 0/9 V2] idr: fix & cleanup Lai Jiangshan
2014-04-19 11:38   ` [PATCH 1/9 V2] idr: fix overflow bug during maximum ID calculation at maximum height Lai Jiangshan
2014-04-19 11:38   ` [PATCH 2/9 V2] idr: fix unexpected ID-removal when idr_remove(unallocated_id) Lai Jiangshan
2014-04-19 11:38   ` [PATCH 3/9 V2] idr: fix NULL pointer dereference when ida_remove(unallocated_id) Lai Jiangshan
2014-04-19 11:38   ` [PATCH 4/9 V2] idr: fix idr_replace()'s returned error code Lai Jiangshan
2014-04-19 11:38   ` [PATCH 5/9 V2] idr: covert BUG_ON() to WARN_ON_ONCE() if the argument is invalid Lai Jiangshan
2014-04-19 13:07     ` Tejun Heo
2014-04-19 14:04       ` Lai Jiangshan
2014-04-19 23:47         ` Tejun Heo
2014-04-19 11:38   ` [PATCH 6/9 V2] idr: avoid ping-pong Lai Jiangshan
2014-04-19 11:38   ` [PATCH 7/9 V2] idr: don't need to shink the free list when idr_remove() Lai Jiangshan
2014-04-19 11:38   ` [PATCH 8/9 V2] idr: reduce the unneeded check in free_layer() Lai Jiangshan
2014-04-19 11:38   ` [PATCH 9/9 V2] idr: remove useless C-PreProcessor branch Lai Jiangshan
2014-04-19 23:51     ` Tejun Heo
2014-04-20  3:56       ` Lai Jiangshan
2014-04-20 11:29         ` Tejun Heo

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