From: Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>
To: Mike Galbraith <umgwanakikbuti@gmail.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, morten.rasmussen@arm.com,
mingo@kernel.org, peterz@infradead.org,
george.mccollister@gmail.com, ktkhai@parallels.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC/TEST] sched: make sync affine wakeups work
Date: Fri, 02 May 2014 02:08:05 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <53633645.9090308@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1399010337.5233.50.camel@marge.simpson.net>
On 05/02/2014 01:58 AM, Mike Galbraith wrote:
> On Fri, 2014-05-02 at 07:32 +0200, Mike Galbraith wrote:
>> On Fri, 2014-05-02 at 00:42 -0400, Rik van Riel wrote:
>>> Currently sync wakeups from the wake_affine code cannot work as
>>> designed, because the task doing the sync wakeup from the target
>>> cpu will block its wakee from selecting that cpu.
>>>
>>> This is despite the fact that whether or not the wakeup is sync
>>> determines whether or not we want to do an affine wakeup...
>>
>> If the sync hint really did mean we ARE going to schedule RSN, waking
>> local would be a good thing. It is all too often a big fat lie.
>
> One example of that is say pgbench. The mother of all work (server
> thread) for that load wakes with sync hint. Let the server wake the
> first of a small herd CPU affine, and that first wakee then preempt the
> server (mother of all work) that drives the entire load.
>
> Byebye throughput.
>
> When there's only one wakee, and there's really not enough overlap to at
> least break even, waking CPU affine is a great idea. Even when your
> wakees only run for a short time, if you wake/get_preempted repeat, the
> load will serialize.
I see a similar issue with specjbb2013, with 4 backend and
4 frontend JVMs on a 4 node NUMA system.
The NUMA balancing code nicely places the memory of each JVM
on one NUMA node, but then the wake_affine code will happily
run all of the threads anywhere on the system, totally ruining
memory locality.
The front end and back end only exchange a few hundred messages
a second, over loopback tcp, so the switching rate between
threads is quite low...
I wonder if it would make sense for wake_affine to be off by
default, and only switch on when the right conditions are
detected, instead of having it on by default like we have now?
I have some ideas on that, but I should probably catch some
sleep before trying to code them up :)
Meanwhile, the test patch that I posted may help us figure out
whether the "sync" option in the current wake_affine code does
anything useful.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-05-02 6:08 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-05-02 4:42 [PATCH RFC/TEST] sched: make sync affine wakeups work Rik van Riel
2014-05-02 5:32 ` Mike Galbraith
2014-05-02 5:41 ` Mike Galbraith
2014-05-02 5:58 ` Mike Galbraith
2014-05-02 6:08 ` Rik van Riel [this message]
2014-05-02 6:36 ` Mike Galbraith
2014-05-02 6:51 ` Mike Galbraith
2014-05-02 6:13 ` Mike Galbraith
2014-05-02 6:30 ` Rik van Riel
2014-05-02 7:37 ` Mike Galbraith
2014-05-02 10:56 ` Rik van Riel
2014-05-02 11:27 ` Mike Galbraith
2014-05-02 12:51 ` Mike Galbraith
[not found] ` <5363B793.9010208@redhat.com>
2014-05-06 11:54 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-05-06 20:19 ` Rik van Riel
2014-05-06 20:39 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-05-06 23:46 ` Rik van Riel
2014-05-09 2:20 ` Rik van Riel
2014-05-09 5:27 ` [PATCH] sched: wake up task on prev_cpu if not in SD_WAKE_AFFINE domain with cpu Rik van Riel
2014-05-09 6:04 ` [PATCH] sched: clean up select_task_rq_fair conditionals and indentation Rik van Riel
2014-05-09 7:34 ` [PATCH] sched: wake up task on prev_cpu if not in SD_WAKE_AFFINE domain with cpu Mike Galbraith
2014-05-09 14:22 ` Rik van Riel
2014-05-09 15:24 ` Mike Galbraith
2014-05-09 15:24 ` Rik van Riel
2014-05-09 17:55 ` Mike Galbraith
2014-05-09 18:16 ` Rik van Riel
2014-05-10 3:54 ` Mike Galbraith
2014-05-13 14:08 ` Rik van Riel
2014-05-14 4:08 ` Mike Galbraith
2014-05-14 15:40 ` [PATCH] sched: call select_idle_sibling when not affine_sd Rik van Riel
2014-05-14 15:45 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-05-19 13:08 ` [tip:sched/core] " tip-bot for Rik van Riel
2014-05-22 12:27 ` [tip:sched/core] sched: Call select_idle_sibling() " tip-bot for Rik van Riel
2014-05-04 11:44 ` [PATCH RFC/TEST] sched: make sync affine wakeups work Preeti Murthy
2014-05-04 12:04 ` Mike Galbraith
2014-05-05 4:38 ` Preeti U Murthy
2014-05-04 12:41 ` Rik van Riel
2014-05-05 4:50 ` Preeti U Murthy
2014-05-05 6:43 ` Preeti U Murthy
2014-05-05 11:28 ` Rik van Riel
2014-05-06 13:26 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-05-06 13:25 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-05-06 20:20 ` Rik van Riel
2014-05-06 20:41 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-05-07 12:17 ` Ingo Molnar
2014-05-06 11:56 ` Peter Zijlstra
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