From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1753937AbaENWkj (ORCPT ); Wed, 14 May 2014 18:40:39 -0400 Received: from mx1.redhat.com ([209.132.183.28]:32267 "EHLO mx1.redhat.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751874AbaENWkh (ORCPT ); Wed, 14 May 2014 18:40:37 -0400 Message-ID: <5373F0D6.4090600@redhat.com> Date: Wed, 14 May 2014 17:40:22 -0500 From: Eric Sandeen Reply-To: sandeen@redhat.com User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.9; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dave Chinner , Jan Kara CC: Mateusz Guzik , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, Josef Bacik , Al Viro , Joe Perches Subject: Re: [PATCH V2 2/2] fs: print a message when freezing/unfreezing filesystems References: <1400018683-5565-1-git-send-email-mguzik@redhat.com> <1400018683-5565-2-git-send-email-mguzik@redhat.com> <20140514111449.GB5824@quack.suse.cz> <20140514112619.GA10637@mguzik.redhat.com> <20140514113945.GC5824@quack.suse.cz> <20140514220052.GD5421@dastard> <20140514223745.GF5421@dastard> In-Reply-To: <20140514223745.GF5421@dastard> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On 5/14/14, 5:37 PM, Dave Chinner wrote: > On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 08:00:52AM +1000, Dave Chinner wrote: >> On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 01:39:45PM +0200, Jan Kara wrote: >>> On Wed 14-05-14 13:26:21, Mateusz Guzik wrote: >>>> On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 01:14:49PM +0200, Jan Kara wrote: >>>>> On Wed 14-05-14 00:04:43, Mateusz Guzik wrote: >>>>>> This helps hang troubleshooting efforts when only dmesg is available. >>>>>> >>>>>> While here remove code duplication with MS_RDONLY case and fix a >>>>>> whitespace nit. >>>>> I'm somewhat undecided here I have to say. On one hand I don't like >>>>> printing to kernel log when everything is fine and kernel is operating >>>>> normally. On the other hand I've seen quite a few cases where people have >>>>> shot themselves in the foot with filesystem freezing so having some trace >>>>> of this in the log doesn't seem like a completely bad thing either. What do >>>>> other people think? >>>>> >>>> >>>> I would like to note that the kernel already prints messages when e.g. >>>> filesystems get mounted. >>> Yeah, that's a fair point. >> >> But filesystems choose to output that info, not the VFS. When you do >> a remount,ro there is no output in syslog, because filesystems don't >> need to dump any output - the state change is reflected in >> /proc/self/mounts. IMO frozen should state should be communicated >> the same way so that it is silent when it just works, and the state >> can easily be determined when something goes wrong. > > Say, like this: > > $ grep /mnt/test /proc/mounts > /dev/vda /mnt/test xfs rw,relatime,attr2,inode64,noquota 0 0 > $ sudo xfs_freeze -f /mnt/test > $ grep /mnt/test /proc/mounts > /dev/vda /mnt/test xfs rw,frozen,relatime,attr2,inode64,noquota 0 0 > $ sudo xfs_freeze -u /mnt/test > $ grep /mnt/test /proc/mounts > /dev/vda /mnt/test xfs rw,relatime,attr2,inode64,noquota 0 0 > $ I'm not totally convinced that including a non-mount option in what has always (?) been a list of mount options is a great idea. (Granted, some options there are defaults, and weren't actually specified as a mount option, but if they had been, they'd have been accepted). Maybe add a "mount -o remount,frozen" handler ? ;) -Eric