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From: "Christian König" <deathsimple@vodafone.de>
To: Maarten Lankhorst <maarten.lankhorst@canonical.com>, airlied@linux.ie
Cc: nouveau@lists.freedesktop.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v1 08/16] drm/radeon: use common fence implementation for fences
Date: Thu, 15 May 2014 17:48:05 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5374E1B5.2020408@vodafone.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5374CC9A.9090905@canonical.com>

Am 15.05.2014 16:18, schrieb Maarten Lankhorst:
> op 15-05-14 15:19, Christian König schreef:
>> Am 15.05.2014 15:04, schrieb Maarten Lankhorst:
>>> op 15-05-14 11:42, Christian König schreef:
>>>> Am 15.05.2014 11:38, schrieb Maarten Lankhorst:
>>>>> op 15-05-14 11:21, Christian König schreef:
>>>>>> Am 15.05.2014 03:06, schrieb Maarten Lankhorst:
>>>>>>> op 14-05-14 17:29, Christian König schreef:
>>>>>>>>> +    /* did fence get signaled after we enabled the sw irq? */
>>>>>>>>> +    if 
>>>>>>>>> (atomic64_read(&fence->rdev->fence_drv[fence->ring].last_seq) 
>>>>>>>>> >= fence->seq) {
>>>>>>>>> +        radeon_irq_kms_sw_irq_put(fence->rdev, fence->ring);
>>>>>>>>> +        return false;
>>>>>>>>> +    }
>>>>>>>>> +
>>>>>>>>> +    fence->fence_wake.flags = 0;
>>>>>>>>> +    fence->fence_wake.private = NULL;
>>>>>>>>> +    fence->fence_wake.func = radeon_fence_check_signaled;
>>>>>>>>> + __add_wait_queue(&fence->rdev->fence_queue, 
>>>>>>>>> &fence->fence_wake);
>>>>>>>>> +    fence_get(f);
>>>>>>>> That looks like a race condition to me. The fence needs to be 
>>>>>>>> added to the wait queue before the check, not after.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Apart from that the whole approach looks like a really bad idea 
>>>>>>>> to me. How for example is lockup detection supposed to happen 
>>>>>>>> with this? 
>>>>>>> It's not a race condition because fence_queue.lock is held when 
>>>>>>> this function is called.
>>>>>> Ah, I see. That's also the reason why you moved the wake_up_all 
>>>>>> out of the processing function.
>>>>> Correct. :-)
>>>>>>> Lockup's a bit of a weird problem, the changes wouldn't allow 
>>>>>>> core ttm code to handle the lockup any more,
>>>>>>> but any driver specific wait code would still handle this. I did 
>>>>>>> this by design, because in future patches the wait
>>>>>>> function may be called from outside of the radeon driver. The 
>>>>>>> official wait function takes a timeout parameter,
>>>>>>> so lockups wouldn't be fatal if the timeout is set to something 
>>>>>>> like 30*HZ for example, it would still return
>>>>>>> and report that the function timed out.
>>>>>> Timeouts help with the detection of the lockup, but not at all 
>>>>>> with the handling of them.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What we essentially need is a wait callback into the driver that 
>>>>>> is called in non atomic context without any locks held.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This way we can block for the fence to become signaled with a 
>>>>>> timeout and can then also initiate the reset handling if necessary.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The way you designed the interface now means that the driver 
>>>>>> never gets a chance to wait for the hardware to become idle and 
>>>>>> so never has the opportunity to the reset the whole thing.
>>>>> You could set up a hangcheck timer like intel does, and end up 
>>>>> with a reliable hangcheck detection that doesn't depend on cpu 
>>>>> waits. :-) Or override the default wait function and restore the 
>>>>> old behavior.
>>>>
>>>> Overriding the default wait function sounds better, please 
>>>> implement it this way.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Christian. 
>>>
>>> Does this modification look sane?
>> Adding the timeout is on my todo list for quite some time as well, so 
>> this part makes sense.
>>
>>> +static long __radeon_fence_wait(struct fence *f, bool intr, long 
>>> timeout)
>>> +{
>>> +    struct radeon_fence *fence = to_radeon_fence(f);
>>> +    u64 target_seq[RADEON_NUM_RINGS] = {};
>>> +
>>> +    target_seq[fence->ring] = fence->seq;
>>> +    return radeon_fence_wait_seq_timeout(fence->rdev, target_seq, 
>>> intr, timeout);
>>> +}
>> When this call is comming from outside the radeon driver you need to 
>> lock rdev->exclusive_lock here to make sure not to interfere with a 
>> possible reset.
> Ah thanks, I'll add that.
>
>>>      .get_timeline_name = radeon_fence_get_timeline_name,
>>>      .enable_signaling = radeon_fence_enable_signaling,
>>>      .signaled = __radeon_fence_signaled,
>> Do we still need those callback when we implemented the wait callback?
> .get_timeline_name is used for debugging (trace events).
> .signaled is the non-blocking call to check if the fence is signaled 
> or not.
> .enable_signaling is used for adding callbacks upon fence completion, 
> the default 'fence_default_wait' uses it, so
> when it works no separate implementation is needed unless you want to 
> do more than just waiting.
> It's also used when fence_add_callback is called. i915 can be patched 
> to use it. ;-)

I just meant enable_signaling, the other ones are fine with me. The 
problem with enable_signaling is that it's called with a spin lock held, 
so we can't sleep.

While resetting the GPU could be moved out into a timer the problem here 
is that I can't lock rdev->exclusive_lock in such situations.

This means when i915 would call into radeon to enable signaling for a 
fence we can't make sure that there is not GPU reset running on another 
CPU. And touching the IRQ registers while a reset is going on is a 
really good recipe to lockup the whole system.

Christian.

>
> ~Maarten


  reply	other threads:[~2014-05-15 15:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-05-14 14:57 [RFC PATCH v1 00/16] Convert all ttm drivers to use the new reservation interface Maarten Lankhorst
2014-05-14 14:57 ` [RFC PATCH v1 01/16] drm/ttm: add interruptible parameter to ttm_eu_reserve_buffers Maarten Lankhorst
2014-05-14 14:57 ` [RFC PATCH v1 02/16] drm/ttm: kill off some members to ttm_validate_buffer Maarten Lankhorst
2014-05-14 14:57 ` [RFC PATCH v1 03/16] drm/nouveau: add reservation to nouveau_gem_ioctl_cpu_prep Maarten Lankhorst
2014-05-14 14:57 ` [RFC PATCH v1 04/16] drm/nouveau: require reservations for nouveau_fence_sync and nouveau_bo_fence Maarten Lankhorst
2014-05-14 14:57 ` [RFC PATCH v1 05/16] drm/ttm: call ttm_bo_wait while inside a reservation Maarten Lankhorst
2014-05-14 14:57 ` [RFC PATCH v1 06/16] drm/ttm: kill fence_lock Maarten Lankhorst
2014-05-14 14:58 ` [RFC PATCH v1 07/16] drm/nouveau: rework to new fence interface Maarten Lankhorst
2014-05-14 14:58 ` [RFC PATCH v1 08/16] drm/radeon: use common fence implementation for fences Maarten Lankhorst
2014-05-14 15:29   ` Christian König
2014-05-15  1:06     ` Maarten Lankhorst
2014-05-15  9:21       ` Christian König
2014-05-15  9:38         ` Maarten Lankhorst
2014-05-15  9:42           ` Christian König
2014-05-15 13:04             ` Maarten Lankhorst
2014-05-15 13:19               ` Christian König
2014-05-15 14:18                 ` Maarten Lankhorst
2014-05-15 15:48                   ` Christian König [this message]
2014-05-15 15:58                     ` Maarten Lankhorst
2014-05-15 16:13                       ` Christian König
2014-05-19  8:00                         ` Maarten Lankhorst
2014-05-19  8:27                           ` Christian König
2014-05-19 10:10                             ` Maarten Lankhorst
2014-05-19 12:30                               ` Christian König
2014-05-19 13:35                                 ` Maarten Lankhorst
2014-05-19 14:25                                   ` Christian König
2014-06-02 10:09                                     ` [RFC PATCH v1.2 " Maarten Lankhorst
2014-06-02 10:45                                       ` Christian König
2014-06-02 13:14                                         ` [RFC PATCH v1.3 08/16 1/2] drm/radeon: add timeout argument to radeon_fence_wait_seq Maarten Lankhorst
2014-06-02 13:27                                           ` Christian König
2014-06-03  7:50                                             ` [RFC PATCH v1.4 " Maarten Lankhorst
2014-06-02 13:16                                         ` [RFC PATCH v1.3 08/16 2/2] drm/radeon: use common fence implementation for fences Maarten Lankhorst
2014-05-14 14:58 ` [RFC PATCH v1 09/16] drm/qxl: rework to new fence interface Maarten Lankhorst
2014-05-14 14:58 ` [RFC PATCH v1 10/16] drm/vmwgfx: get rid of different types of fence_flags entirely Maarten Lankhorst
2014-05-14 14:58 ` [RFC PATCH v1 11/16] drm/vmwgfx: rework to new fence interface Maarten Lankhorst
2014-05-14 14:58 ` [RFC PATCH v1 12/16] drm/ttm: flip the switch, and convert to dma_fence Maarten Lankhorst
2014-05-14 14:58 ` [RFC PATCH v1 13/16] drm/nouveau: use rcu in nouveau_gem_ioctl_cpu_prep Maarten Lankhorst
2014-05-14 14:58 ` [RFC PATCH v1 14/16] drm/radeon: use rcu waits in some ioctls Maarten Lankhorst
2014-05-14 14:58 ` [RFC PATCH v1 15/16] drm/vmwgfx: use rcu in vmw_user_dmabuf_synccpu_grab Maarten Lankhorst
2014-05-14 14:58 ` [RFC PATCH v1 16/16] drm/ttm: use rcu in core ttm Maarten Lankhorst

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