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From: Li Zefan <lizefan@huawei.com>
To: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
Cc: <cgroups@vger.kernel.org>, <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	<hannes@cmpxchg.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCHSET cgroup/for-3.16] cgroup: iterate cgroup_subsys_states directly
Date: Fri, 16 May 2014 09:28:24 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <537569B8.5050402@huawei.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140514130722.GE28815@htj.dyndns.org>

On2014/5/14 21:07, Tejun Heo wrote:
> Hello, Li.
> 
> On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 12:21:25PM +0800, Li Zefan wrote:
>>> There are now use cases where controllers need to iterate through
>>> csses regardless of their online state as long as they have positive
>>
>> What use cases are we talking about here?
> 
> memcg wants to be able to iterate all csses whose refcnts haven't
> reached zero yet so that it can treat offline csses the same way as
> online ones in terms of memory reclaim.  They don't contain new tasks
> so new charges won't be created but offlining won't try to transfer
> all charges to the parent but just leave the offline child attached
> until all charges are eventually reclaimed from the pressure from the
> parent.
> 
> I'm not too familiar with the details but this makes sense in generic
> sense too.  Offline marks an object starting its draining phase and
> release marks the actual destruction point.  For controllers with
> persistent states like memcg, it's a lot more natural to deal offlined
> csses as "active but draining following the usual hierarchical
> operation" rather than trying to explicitly update the states from
> offline to move them to the parent especially as the effort there
> essentially is a waste as most of those moved charges aren't gonna be
> used in the parent and will be released eventually.
> 
> Guaranteeing iteration of offline but not-released csses allow
> controllers to treat the draining stage between offline and release
> more or less identically to online state which in turn can make
> ->css_offline() significantly simpler and lighter.
> 

yeah, fair enough.


  reply	other threads:[~2014-05-16  1:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-05-09 21:31 [PATCHSET cgroup/for-3.16] cgroup: iterate cgroup_subsys_states directly Tejun Heo
2014-05-09 21:31 ` [PATCH 01/14] cgroup: remove css_parent() Tejun Heo
2014-05-11  1:47   ` David Miller
2014-05-11 13:02   ` Neil Horman
2014-05-12 13:16   ` Michal Hocko
2014-05-13 18:50   ` [PATCH v2 " Tejun Heo
2014-05-09 21:31 ` [PATCH 02/14] cgroup: remove pointless has tasks/children test from mem_cgroup_force_empty() Tejun Heo
2014-05-12 14:53   ` Michal Hocko
2014-05-12 14:58     ` [PATCH] memcg: deprecate memory.force_empty knob Michal Hocko
2014-05-12 15:00       ` Tejun Heo
2014-05-12 15:20         ` Michal Hocko
2014-05-12 15:25           ` Tejun Heo
2014-05-12 15:34             ` Michal Hocko
2014-05-13 13:16               ` Johannes Weiner
2014-05-13 15:09                 ` Michal Hocko
2014-05-12 14:59     ` [PATCH 02/14] cgroup: remove pointless has tasks/children test from mem_cgroup_force_empty() Tejun Heo
2014-05-12 15:21       ` Michal Hocko
2014-05-13 13:10     ` Johannes Weiner
2014-05-13 16:46     ` Tejun Heo
2014-05-13 18:51     ` [PATCH UPDATED 02/14] memcg: remove " Tejun Heo
2014-05-09 21:31 ` [PATCH 03/14] memcg: update memcg_has_children() to use css_next_child() Tejun Heo
2014-05-12 15:18   ` Michal Hocko
2014-05-13 16:53   ` [PATCH v2 " Tejun Heo
2014-05-09 21:31 ` [PATCH 04/14] device_cgroup: remove direct access to cgroup->children Tejun Heo
2014-05-13 12:56   ` Aristeu Rozanski
2014-05-14 12:52   ` Serge E. Hallyn
2014-05-09 21:31 ` [PATCH 05/14] cgroup: remove cgroup->parent Tejun Heo
2014-05-09 21:31 ` [PATCH 06/14] cgroup: move cgroup->sibling and ->children into cgroup_subsys_state Tejun Heo
2014-05-09 21:31 ` [PATCH 07/14] cgroup: link all cgroup_subsys_states in their sibling lists Tejun Heo
2014-05-09 21:31 ` [PATCH 08/14] cgroup: move cgroup->serial_nr into cgroup_subsys_state Tejun Heo
2014-05-09 21:31 ` [PATCH 09/14] cgroup: introduce CSS_RELEASED and reduce css iteration fallback window Tejun Heo
2014-05-16 16:07   ` [PATCH v2 " Tejun Heo
2014-05-09 21:31 ` [PATCH 10/14] cgroup: iterate cgroup_subsys_states directly Tejun Heo
2014-05-09 21:31 ` [PATCH 11/14] cgroup: use CSS_ONLINE instead of CGRP_DEAD Tejun Heo
2014-05-09 21:31 ` [PATCH 12/14] cgroup: convert cgroup_has_live_children() into css_has_online_children() Tejun Heo
2014-05-09 21:31 ` [PATCH 13/14] device_cgroup: use css_has_online_children() instead of has_children() Tejun Heo
2014-05-13 12:56   ` Aristeu Rozanski
2014-05-14 12:53   ` Serge E. Hallyn
2014-05-09 21:31 ` [PATCH 14/14] cgroup: implement css_tryget() Tejun Heo
2014-05-11  4:54   ` Johannes Weiner
2014-05-11 12:38     ` Tejun Heo
2014-05-16 16:07   ` [PATCH v2 " Tejun Heo
2014-05-13 16:59 ` [PATCHSET cgroup/for-3.16] cgroup: iterate cgroup_subsys_states directly Tejun Heo
2014-05-14  4:21 ` Li Zefan
2014-05-14 13:07   ` Tejun Heo
2014-05-16  1:28     ` Li Zefan [this message]
2014-05-16  1:29 ` Li Zefan
2014-05-16 16:08 ` Tejun Heo

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