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From: Jim Baxter <jim_baxter@mentor.com>
To: Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>
Cc: "David Laight" <David.Laight@ACULAB.COM>,
	"'Bjørn Mork'" <bjorn@mork.no>,
	"linux-usb@vger.kernel.org" <linux-usb@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"netdev@vger.kernel.org" <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	"kamal@canonical.com" <kamal@canonical.com>,
	"edumazet@google.com" <edumazet@google.com>,
	"mszeredi@suse.cz" <mszeredi@suse.cz>,
	"fw@strlen.de" <fw@strlen.de>
Subject: Re: skbuff truesize incorrect.
Date: Fri, 23 May 2014 16:00:52 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <537F62A4.1020707@mentor.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1400852843.5367.191.camel@edumazet-glaptop2.roam.corp.google.com>

On 23/05/14 14:47, Eric Dumazet wrote:
> On Fri, 2014-05-23 at 12:13 +0100, Jim Baxter wrote:
> 
>> What are the side effects of changing the truesize, if the original
>> uncloned skb has the full truesize then isn't the potential memory usage
>> still counted for the avoidance of OOM?
> 
> Nope. This can be disastrous.
> 
> A malicious remote peer can crash your host by sending specially cooked
> TCP messages.
> 
> Send messages with one byte of payload, and out of order so that they
> cant be consumed by receiver, and cant be coalesced/collapsed.
> 
> If you claim the true size is sizeof(sk_buff) + 512, TCP stack will
> accumulate these messages in out of order queue, and will not bother
> with them, unless you hit sk_rcvbuf limit.
> 
> But in reality these messages uses sizeof(sk_buff) + 32768 bytes.
> 
> Divide your physical memory by 32768 : How many such messages will fit
> in memory before the host crashes ?
> 
> I've seen that kind of attacks in real cases.
> 
> Even the fast clones sk_buff mismatch can be noticed. Luckily a 10%
> error has no severe impact.
> 
> TCP stack uses fast clones, and current stack gives them a truesize of
> 2048 + sizeof(sk_buff), while it really should be 2048 +
> 2*sizeof(sk_buff)
> 
> Luckily, GSO/TSO tends to reduce the error, as skbs overhead is lower.
> 
> 

Thank you for clarifying, that is useful to know.

  reply	other threads:[~2014-05-23 15:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-05-22 19:07 skbuff truesize incorrect Jim Baxter
2014-05-22 19:21 ` David Miller
2014-05-22 20:21   ` Jim Baxter
2014-05-22 20:30     ` Eric Dumazet
2014-05-22 20:58     ` David Miller
2014-05-23  9:21       ` Jim Baxter
2014-05-23  9:27         ` David Laight
2014-05-23 16:46         ` David Miller
2014-05-22 19:25 ` Vlad Yasevich
2014-05-22 19:39   ` Jim Baxter
2014-05-22 19:59     ` Eric Dumazet
2014-05-22 20:21       ` Jim Baxter
2014-05-22 20:58 ` Eric Dumazet
2014-05-22 21:03   ` Eric Dumazet
2014-05-22 21:10     ` David Miller
2014-05-23  7:07       ` Bjørn Mork
2014-05-23  8:58         ` Jim Baxter
2014-05-23  9:33           ` Bjørn Mork
2014-05-23 14:00             ` Eric Dumazet
2014-05-23 15:44             ` Rick Jones
2014-05-23 16:00               ` Eric Dumazet
2014-05-23  8:52   ` David Laight
2014-05-23  9:48     ` Bjørn Mork
2014-05-23 10:45       ` David Laight
2014-05-23 11:13         ` Jim Baxter
2014-05-23 13:47           ` Eric Dumazet
2014-05-23 15:00             ` Jim Baxter [this message]
2014-05-23 15:30             ` David Laight
2014-05-23 15:41               ` Eric Dumazet
2014-05-23 20:18     ` David Miller
2014-05-27 15:23       ` David Laight
2014-05-27 15:52         ` David Miller

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