From: "Srivatsa S. Bhat" <srivatsa.bhat@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
tglx@linutronix.de, mingo@kernel.org, tj@kernel.org,
rusty@rustcorp.com.au, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
hch@infradead.org, mgorman@suse.de, riel@redhat.com, bp@suse.de,
rostedt@goodmis.org, mgalbraith@suse.de, ego@linux.vnet.ibm.com,
paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com, oleg@redhat.com, rjw@rjwysocki.net,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 2/3] CPU hotplug, stop-machine: Plug race-window that leads to "IPI-to-offline-CPU"
Date: Fri, 23 May 2014 21:23:21 +0530 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <537F6EF1.9050204@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140523154858.GH30445@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net>
On 05/23/2014 09:18 PM, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 09:07:18PM +0530, Srivatsa S. Bhat wrote:
>> On 05/23/2014 09:03 PM, Srivatsa S. Bhat wrote:
>>> On 05/23/2014 09:01 PM, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
>>>> On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 08:48:07PM +0530, Srivatsa S. Bhat wrote:
>>>>> On 05/23/2014 08:42 PM, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
>>>>>> On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 08:15:35PM +0530, Srivatsa S. Bhat wrote:
>>>>>>>>> + * During CPU offline, we don't want the other CPUs to send
>>>>>>>>> + * IPIs to the active_cpu (the outgoing CPU) *after* it has
>>>>>>>>> + * disabled interrupts (because, then it will notice the IPIs
>>>>>>>>> + * only after it has gone offline). We can prevent this by
>>>>>>>>> + * making the other CPUs disable their interrupts first - that
>>>>>>>>> + * way, they will run the stop-machine code with interrupts
>>>>>>>>> + * disabled, and hence won't send IPIs after that point.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That's complete nonsense, you can send IPIs all you want with interrupts
>>>>>> disabled.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> True, but that's not what the comment says. It says "you can't send IPIs
>>>>> because you are running the *stop-machine* loop, because the stop-machine loop
>>>>> doesn't send IPIs itself! The only possibility of sending IPIs from within
>>>>> stop-machine is if that CPU can takes an interrupt and the *interrupt handler*
>>>>> sends the IPI (like what the block layer used to do) - and we precisely avoid
>>>>> that possibility by disabling interrupts. So no IPIs will be sent beyond
>>>>> this point.
>>>>
>>>> but one of those CPUs is running the stop machine function, which calls
>>>> CPU_DYING which runs all kinds of nonsense and therefore can send IPIs
>>>> all it wants, right?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Yes, but that CPU certainly won't IPI itself! (We are trying to avoid getting
>>> IPIs on precisely that CPU - the one which is about to go offline).
>>>
>>
>> And the comment makes that distinction between the "active-cpu" and "other CPUs"
>> (where active-cpu is the one which runs the stop-machine function and eventually
>> goes offline). Thus "other CPUs" won't send IPIs after that point, because they
>> are running the stop-machine loop with interrupts disabled. This ensures that
>> the "active-cpu" doesn't get any IPIs - which is what we want.
>
> OK, so clearly I'm having trouble reading today :/ Makes sense now.
>
> But yes, its unlikely for CPU_DYING to self-IPI, although if you really
> want, I can do ;-)
>
Haha :-)
> And I guess the one extra state doesn't hurt too bad for
> stop_two_cpus().
>
Ok, that's good then.
Regards,
Srivatsa S. Bhat
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-05-23 15:54 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-05-23 10:11 [PATCH v6 0/3] CPU hotplug: Fix the long-standing "IPI to offline CPU" issue Srivatsa S. Bhat
2014-05-23 10:12 ` [PATCH v6 1/3] smp: Print more useful debug info upon receiving IPI on an offline CPU Srivatsa S. Bhat
2014-05-23 10:12 ` [PATCH v6 2/3] CPU hotplug, stop-machine: Plug race-window that leads to "IPI-to-offline-CPU" Srivatsa S. Bhat
2014-05-23 13:22 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2014-05-23 14:45 ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2014-05-23 15:04 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2014-05-23 15:24 ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2014-05-23 15:12 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-05-23 15:18 ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2014-05-23 15:31 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-05-23 15:33 ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2014-05-23 15:37 ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2014-05-23 15:48 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-05-23 15:53 ` Srivatsa S. Bhat [this message]
2014-05-23 17:05 ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2014-05-23 15:21 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-05-23 15:31 ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2014-05-23 10:12 ` [PATCH v6 3/3] CPU hotplug, smp: Flush any pending IPI callbacks before CPU offline Srivatsa S. Bhat
2014-05-23 13:27 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2014-05-23 14:47 ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
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