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From: Libo Chen <libo.chen@huawei.com>
To: Mike Galbraith <umgwanakikbuti@gmail.com>
Cc: <tglx@linutronix.de>, <mingo@elte.hu>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	"Li Zefan" <lizefan@huawei.com>, <peterz@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: balance storm
Date: Tue, 27 May 2014 15:56:00 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <53844510.1040502@huawei.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1401113960.23186.41.camel@marge.simpson.net>

On 2014/5/26 22:19, Mike Galbraith wrote:
> On Mon, 2014-05-26 at 20:16 +0800, Libo Chen wrote: 
>> On 2014/5/26 13:11, Mike Galbraith wrote:
> 
>>> Your synthetic test is the absolute worst case scenario.  There has to
>>> be work between wakeups for select_idle_sibling() to have any chance
>>> whatsoever of turning in a win.  At 0 work, it becomes 100% overhead.
>>
>> not synthetic, it is a real problem in our product. under no load, waste
>> much cpu time.
> 
> What happens in your product if you apply the commit I pointed out?

under no load, cpu usage is up to 60%, but the same apps cost 10% on
susp sp1.  The apps use a lot of timer.

I am not sure that commit is the root cause, but they do have some different
cpu usage between 3.4.24 and suse sp1, e.g. my synthetic test before.

> 
>>>> so I think 15% cpu usage and migration event are too high, how to fixed?
>>>
>>> You can't for free, low latency wakeup can be worth one hell of a lot.
>>>
>>> You could do a decayed hit/miss or such to shut the thing off when the
>>> price is just too high.  Restricting migrations per unit time per task
>>> also helps cut the cost, but hurts tasks that could have gotten to the
>>> CPU quicker, and started your next bit of work.  Anything you do there
>>> is going to be a rob Peter to pay Paul thing.
>>>
>>
>> I had tried to change sched_migration_cost and sched_nr_migrate in /proc,
>> but no use.  any other  suggestion?
>>
>> I still think this is a problem to schedular.  it is better to directly solve
>> this issue instead of a workaroud
> 
> I didn't say it wasn't a problem, it is.  I said whatever you do will be
> a tradeoff.
> 
> -Mike
> 
> 
> 



  reply	other threads:[~2014-05-27  7:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-05-26  3:04 balance storm Libo Chen
2014-05-26  5:11 ` Mike Galbraith
2014-05-26 12:16   ` Libo Chen
2014-05-26 14:19     ` Mike Galbraith
2014-05-27  7:56       ` Libo Chen [this message]
2014-05-27  9:55         ` Mike Galbraith
2014-05-27 12:50           ` Libo Chen
2014-05-27 13:20             ` Mike Galbraith
2014-05-28  1:04               ` Libo Chen
2014-05-28  1:53                 ` Mike Galbraith
2014-05-28  6:54                   ` Libo Chen
2014-05-28  8:16                     ` Mike Galbraith
2014-05-28  9:08                     ` Thomas Gleixner
2014-05-28 10:30                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-05-28 10:52                         ` Borislav Petkov
2014-05-28 11:43                       ` Libo Chen
2014-05-28 11:55                         ` Mike Galbraith
2014-05-29  7:58                           ` Libo Chen
2014-05-29  7:57                       ` Libo Chen
2014-05-27 20:53             ` Thomas Gleixner
2014-05-28  1:06               ` Libo Chen
2014-05-26  7:56 ` Mike Galbraith
2014-05-26 11:49   ` Libo Chen
2014-05-26 14:03     ` Mike Galbraith
2014-05-27  7:44       ` Libo Chen
2014-05-27  8:12         ` Mike Galbraith
2014-05-27  9:48     ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-05-27 10:05       ` Mike Galbraith
2014-05-27 10:43         ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-05-27 10:55           ` Mike Galbraith
2014-05-27 12:56             ` Libo Chen
2014-05-27 12:55       ` Libo Chen
2014-05-27 13:13         ` Peter Zijlstra

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