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From: Libo Chen <libo.chen@huawei.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Mike Galbraith <umgwanakikbuti@gmail.com>, <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	<mingo@elte.hu>, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Li Zefan <lizefan@huawei.com>
Subject: Re: balance storm
Date: Tue, 27 May 2014 20:55:20 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <53848B38.5090408@huawei.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140527094802.GN30445@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net>

On 2014/5/27 17:48, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> So: 
> 
> 1) what kind of weird ass workload is that? Why are you waking up so
> often to do no work?

it's just a testcase, I agree it doesn`t exist in real world.

> 
> 2) turning on/off share_pkg_resource is a horrid hack whichever way
> aruond you turn it.
> 
> So I suppose this is due to the select_idle_sibling() nonsense again,
> where we assumes L3 is a fair compromise between cheap enough and
> effective enough.
> 
> Of course, Intel keeps growing the cpu count covered by L3 to ridiculous
> sizes, 8 cores isn't nowhere near their top silly, which shifts the
> balance, and there's always going to be pathological cases (like the
> proposed workload) where its just always going to suck eggs.
> 
> Also, when running 50 such things on a 16 cpu machine, you get roughly 3
> per cpu, since their runtime is stupid low, I would expect it to pretty
> much always hit an idle cpu, which in turn should inhibit the migration.
> 
> Then again, maybe the timer slack is causing you grief, resulting in all
> 3 being woken at the same time, instead of having them staggered.
> 
> In any case, I'm not sure what the 'regression' report is against, as
> there's only a single kernel version mentioned: 3.4, and that's almost a
upstream has the same problem, I have mentioned before.

> dinosaur.



  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-05-27 12:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-05-26  3:04 balance storm Libo Chen
2014-05-26  5:11 ` Mike Galbraith
2014-05-26 12:16   ` Libo Chen
2014-05-26 14:19     ` Mike Galbraith
2014-05-27  7:56       ` Libo Chen
2014-05-27  9:55         ` Mike Galbraith
2014-05-27 12:50           ` Libo Chen
2014-05-27 13:20             ` Mike Galbraith
2014-05-28  1:04               ` Libo Chen
2014-05-28  1:53                 ` Mike Galbraith
2014-05-28  6:54                   ` Libo Chen
2014-05-28  8:16                     ` Mike Galbraith
2014-05-28  9:08                     ` Thomas Gleixner
2014-05-28 10:30                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-05-28 10:52                         ` Borislav Petkov
2014-05-28 11:43                       ` Libo Chen
2014-05-28 11:55                         ` Mike Galbraith
2014-05-29  7:58                           ` Libo Chen
2014-05-29  7:57                       ` Libo Chen
2014-05-27 20:53             ` Thomas Gleixner
2014-05-28  1:06               ` Libo Chen
2014-05-26  7:56 ` Mike Galbraith
2014-05-26 11:49   ` Libo Chen
2014-05-26 14:03     ` Mike Galbraith
2014-05-27  7:44       ` Libo Chen
2014-05-27  8:12         ` Mike Galbraith
2014-05-27  9:48     ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-05-27 10:05       ` Mike Galbraith
2014-05-27 10:43         ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-05-27 10:55           ` Mike Galbraith
2014-05-27 12:56             ` Libo Chen
2014-05-27 12:55       ` Libo Chen [this message]
2014-05-27 13:13         ` Peter Zijlstra

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