From: Stephen Boyd <sboyd@codeaurora.org>
To: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
Cc: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Corey Minyard <cminyard@mvista.com>,
Stanislav Meduna <stano@meduna.org>,
"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] tracing: Don't account for cpu idle time with irqsoff tracers
Date: Tue, 27 May 2014 17:23:01 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <53852C65.7040504@codeaurora.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <53852999.7060907@codeaurora.org>
On 05/27/14 17:11, Stephen Boyd wrote:
> On 05/27/14 16:30, Steven Rostedt wrote:
>> On Tue, 27 May 2014 15:21:39 -0700
>> Stephen Boyd <sboyd@codeaurora.org> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>> Arnd brings up a good point.
>>> Hrm.. still not getting Arnd's mails.
>> Strange. What mail service do you have. Could they be blocking him?
>>
>>>> If we disable irqs off tracing completely,
>>>> we may be missing places in the idle path that disable interrupts for
>>>> long periods of time. We may want to move the stop down further.
>>>>
>>>> The way it works (IIRC), and why tracing can start again is that it can
>>>> nest. Perhaps we need to stop it further down if we can't move it
>>>> completely.
>>>>
>>> I'm not sure how much deeper it can go and I'm afraid it will become a
>>> game of whack-a-mole. I already see two places that disable and reenable
>>> irqs after stop_critical_timings() is called (first in rcu_idle_enter()
>>> and second in clockevents_notify()). Should rcu_idle_enter() move to
>>> raw_local_irq_save()? It looks like that path calls rcu_sched_qs() and
>>> on tiny RCU that again needs the raw_ treatement. We can probably call
>>> stop_critical_timings() after rcu_idle_enter() to fix this.
>> I don't think we need to whack-a-mole. The start stop should be around
>> where it goes to sleep.
>>
>>> What about clockevents_notify? __raw_spin_lock_irqsave() should probably
>>> use raw_local_irqsave().
>> No that solution is even worse. We need lockdep working here.
>>
>>> If we go the raw route, do we even need stop/start_critical_timings()?
>>> Can't we just use raw accessors in the idle paths
>>> (tick_nohz_idle_{enter,exit}(), cpuidle_enter(), etc.) and get rid of
>>> the stop/start stuff completely? I admit this patch is pretty much a big
>>> sledge hammer that tries to make things simple, but if there is some
>>> benefit to the raw accessors I'm willing to send patches to fix all the
>>> call sites.
>>>
>> How about the following. I don't see any reason stop_critical_timings()
>> can't be called from within rcu_idle code, as it doesn't use any rcu.
>>
>> Paul, Peter, see anything wrong with this?
>>
> cpuidle_enter_state() calls ktime_get() which on lockdep enabled builds
> calls seqcount_lockdep_reader_access() which calls local_irq_save() that
> then turns on the tracer again. Perhaps the problem is that irqsoff
> tracer is triggered even when we aren't transitioning between irqs on
> and irqs off? What about this patch? I assume there is a reason that
> this is wrong, but I don't know what it is.
>
> ---8<-----
>
> diff --git a/include/linux/irqflags.h b/include/linux/irqflags.h
> index d176d658fe25..ac8e0a4968bd 100644
> --- a/include/linux/irqflags.h
> +++ b/include/linux/irqflags.h
> @@ -93,7 +93,8 @@
> #define local_irq_save(flags) \
> do { \
> raw_local_irq_save(flags); \
> - trace_hardirqs_off(); \
> + if (!raw_irqs_disabled_flags(flags)) \
> + trace_hardirqs_off(); \
> } while (0)
>
>
> @@ -101,7 +102,6 @@
> do { \
> if (raw_irqs_disabled_flags(flags)) { \
> raw_local_irq_restore(flags); \
> - trace_hardirqs_off(); \
> } else { \
> trace_hardirqs_on(); \
> raw_local_irq_restore(flags); \
>
Aha, looks like lockdep wants to know about redundant hardirqs with the
redundant_hardirqs_off field. Can we use the same field in the irqsoff
tracer to monitor the hardirq on/off state more accurately?
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-05-28 0:23 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-05-27 20:08 [PATCH v2] tracing: Don't account for cpu idle time with irqsoff tracers Stephen Boyd
2014-05-27 20:11 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-05-27 21:48 ` Steven Rostedt
2014-05-27 22:21 ` Stephen Boyd
2014-05-27 23:30 ` Steven Rostedt
2014-05-28 0:11 ` Stephen Boyd
2014-05-28 0:23 ` Stephen Boyd [this message]
2014-05-28 0:42 ` Steven Rostedt
2014-05-28 7:24 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-05-28 17:22 ` John Stultz
2014-05-28 0:25 ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-05-28 6:40 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-05-28 6:44 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-05-28 7:28 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-05-28 14:09 ` Steven Rostedt
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