From: Pavel Emelyanov <xemul@parallels.com>
To: Richard Weinberger <richard@nod.at>
Cc: Vasily Kulikov <segoon@openwall.com>,
<containers@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
Serge Hallyn <serge.hallyn@ubuntu.com>,
<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>,
David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>,
"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] /proc/pid/status: show all sets of pid according to ns
Date: Thu, 29 May 2014 14:36:56 +0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <53870DC8.40908@parallels.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <538709A5.60000@nod.at>
On 05/29/2014 02:19 PM, Richard Weinberger wrote:
> Am 29.05.2014 12:02, schrieb Pavel Emelyanov:
>>>> We need to know what pid namespaces a task lives in and how pid, sid and
>>>> pgid look in all of them. A short example with pids only
>>>
>>> So use case is to checkpoint/restore nested containers? :)
>>
>> Yes, but there's one more scenario. AFAIK some applications create pid namespaces
>> themselves, without starting what is typically called "a container" :) And when
>> such an applications are run inside, well ... "more real" container (e.g. using
>> openvz, lxc or docker tools) we face this issue.
>
> Do you know such an application?
There were a couple of them reported on the criu mailing list, but I didn't
track those :(
> I'm a aware of systemd which uses CLONE_NEWNET/NS to implement security features.
Yup, this is its typical behavior.
> We could add a directory like /proc/<pidX>/ns/proc/ which would contain everything
> from /proc/<pidX inside the namespace>/.
But how would it help to find out which $pid directories correspond to which
to properly collect the pid mappings?
> This needs definitely more discussion and must not solved by ad-hoc solutions.
Absolutely.
Thanks,
Pavel
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-05-29 10:37 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-05-28 10:24 [PATCH v2] /proc/pid/status: show all sets of pid according to ns Chen Hanxiao
2014-05-28 12:44 ` Pavel Emelyanov
2014-05-28 18:28 ` Vasily Kulikov
2014-05-28 19:27 ` Pavel Emelyanov
2014-05-29 5:59 ` Vasily Kulikov
2014-05-29 9:07 ` Pavel Emelyanov
2014-05-29 9:21 ` Richard Weinberger
2014-05-29 9:41 ` Pavel Emelyanov
2014-05-29 9:54 ` Richard Weinberger
2014-05-29 10:02 ` Pavel Emelyanov
2014-05-29 10:19 ` Richard Weinberger
2014-05-29 10:36 ` Pavel Emelyanov [this message]
2014-05-29 9:53 ` chenhanxiao
2014-05-29 10:40 ` Pavel Emelyanov
2014-05-29 11:12 ` Vasily Kulikov
2014-05-29 11:31 ` Pavel Emelyanov
2014-05-29 11:59 ` Vasily Kulikov
2014-05-29 12:53 ` Pavel Emelyanov
2014-05-31 6:07 ` Vasily Kulikov
2014-05-31 20:08 ` Eric W. Biederman
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