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From: Pavel Emelyanov <xemul@parallels.com>
To: Vasily Kulikov <segoon@openwall.com>
Cc: Richard Weinberger <richard.weinberger@gmail.com>,
	<containers@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
	Serge Hallyn <serge.hallyn@ubuntu.com>,
	<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>,
	David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>,
	"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] /proc/pid/status: show all sets of pid according to ns
Date: Thu, 29 May 2014 16:53:01 +0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <53872DAD.1070502@parallels.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140529115946.GA19889@cachalot>

On 05/29/2014 03:59 PM, Vasily Kulikov wrote:
> On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 15:31 +0400, Pavel Emelyanov wrote:
>> On 05/29/2014 03:12 PM, Vasily Kulikov wrote:
>>> On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 13:07 +0400, Pavel Emelyanov wrote:
>>>> On 05/29/2014 09:59 AM, Vasily Kulikov wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 23:27 +0400, Pavel Emelyanov wrote:
>>>>> ] We need a direct method of getting the pid inside containers.
>>>>> ] If some issues occurred inside container guest, host user
>>>>> ] could not know which process is in trouble just by guest pid:
>>>>> ] the users of container guest only knew the pid inside containers.
>>>>> ] This will bring obstacle for trouble shooting.
>>>>>
>>>>> A new syscall might complicate trouble shooting by admin.
>>>>
>>>> Pure syscall -- yes. What if we teach the ps and top utilities to show additional
>>>> info? I think that would help.
>>>
>>> I like the idea with low level non-shell API which can be used by
>>> utility like ps (or implementation of a new tool to work with complex
>>> namespace hierarchies).  It should fit for troublesooting.  Then there
>>> should be no reason to implement two different APIs for observation from
>>> shell via FS and from applications.
>>
>> Maybe we can reuse the existing kcmp() system call? We would have to store
>> the collected pid values in some hash/tree anyway, and kcmp() provides us
>> good comparing function for doing this.
>>
>> Like we can call kcmp(pid1, pid2, KCMP_PID, nsfd1, nsfd2) which will mean
>> "Are tasks with pid1 in namespace pointed by nsfd1 and with pid2 in namespace
>> nsfd2 the same?"
>>
>> What do you think?
> 
> kcmp() is not needed, just compare inode numbers:
> 
>     # ls -il /proc/{43,self}/ns/mnt
>     208182 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 0 мая   29 15:52 /proc/43/ns/mnt -> mnt:[4026531856]
>     216556 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 0 мая   29 15:57 /proc/self/ns/mnt -> mnt:[4026531840]

But that's for comparing the namespaces, while I'm proposing the kcmp to
check for PIDs.

Thanks,
Pavel

  reply	other threads:[~2014-05-29 12:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-05-28 10:24 [PATCH v2] /proc/pid/status: show all sets of pid according to ns Chen Hanxiao
2014-05-28 12:44 ` Pavel Emelyanov
2014-05-28 18:28   ` Vasily Kulikov
2014-05-28 19:27     ` Pavel Emelyanov
2014-05-29  5:59       ` Vasily Kulikov
2014-05-29  9:07         ` Pavel Emelyanov
2014-05-29  9:21           ` Richard Weinberger
2014-05-29  9:41             ` Pavel Emelyanov
2014-05-29  9:54               ` Richard Weinberger
2014-05-29 10:02                 ` Pavel Emelyanov
2014-05-29 10:19                   ` Richard Weinberger
2014-05-29 10:36                     ` Pavel Emelyanov
2014-05-29  9:53           ` chenhanxiao
2014-05-29 10:40             ` Pavel Emelyanov
2014-05-29 11:12           ` Vasily Kulikov
2014-05-29 11:31             ` Pavel Emelyanov
2014-05-29 11:59               ` Vasily Kulikov
2014-05-29 12:53                 ` Pavel Emelyanov [this message]
2014-05-31  6:07                   ` Vasily Kulikov
2014-05-31 20:08                     ` Eric W. Biederman

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