From: Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>
To: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
Cc: Paolo Valente <paolo.valente@unimore.it>,
Li Zefan <lizefan@huawei.com>,
Fabio Checconi <fchecconi@gmail.com>,
Arianna Avanzini <avanzini.arianna@gmail.com>,
Paolo Valente <posta_paolo@yahoo.it>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
containers@lists.linux-foundation.org, cgroups@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC - TAKE TWO - 00/12] New version of the BFQ I/O Scheduler
Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2014 08:29:27 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <538C8A47.1050502@kernel.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140531051635.GA19925@mtj.dyndns.org>
On 2014-05-30 23:16, Tejun Heo wrote:
>> for turning patch #2 into a series of changes for CFQ instead. We need to
>> end up with something where we can potentially bisect our way down to
>> whatever caused any given regression. The worst possible situation is "CFQ
>> works fine for this workload, but BFQ does not" or vice versa. Or hangs, or
>> whatever it might be.
>
> It's likely that there will be some workloads out there which may be
> affected adversely, which is true for any change really but with both
> the core scheduling and heuristics properly characterized at least
> finding a reasonable trade-off should be much less of a crapshoot and
> the expected benefits seem to easily outweigh the risks as long as we
> can properly sequence the changes.
Exactly, I think we are pretty much on the same page here. As I said in
the previous email, the biggest thing I care about is not adding a new
IO scheduler wholesale. If Paolo can turn the "add BFQ" patch into a
series of patches against CFQ, then I would have no issue merging it for
testing (and inclusion, when it's stable enough).
One thing I've neglected to bring up but have been thinking about -
we're quickly getting to the point where the old request_fn IO path will
become a legacy thing, mostly in maintenance mode. That isn't a problem
for morphing bfq and cfq, but it does mean that development efforts in
this area would be a lot better spent writing an IO scheduler that fits
into the blk-mq framework instead.
I realize this is a tall order right now, as I haven't included any sort
of framework for that in blk-mq yet. So what I envision happening is
that I will write a basic deadline (ish) scheduler for blk-mq, and
hopefully others can then pitch in and we can get the ball rolling on
that side as well.
--
Jens Axboe
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-06-02 14:29 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 107+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-05-27 12:42 [PATCH RFC RESEND 00/14] New version of the BFQ I/O Scheduler paolo
2014-05-27 12:42 ` [PATCH RFC RESEND 01/14] block: kconfig update and build bits for BFQ paolo
2014-05-28 22:19 ` Tejun Heo
2014-05-29 9:05 ` [PATCH RFC - TAKE TWO - 00/12] New version of the BFQ I/O Scheduler Paolo Valente
2014-05-29 9:05 ` [PATCH RFC - TAKE TWO - 01/12] block: introduce the BFQ-v0 I/O scheduler Paolo Valente
2014-05-30 15:36 ` Tejun Heo
2014-05-29 9:05 ` [PATCH RFC - TAKE TWO - 02/12] block, bfq: add full hierarchical scheduling and cgroups support Paolo Valente
2014-05-30 15:37 ` Tejun Heo
2014-05-30 15:39 ` Tejun Heo
2014-05-30 21:49 ` Paolo Valente
2014-05-30 21:49 ` Paolo Valente
2014-05-29 9:05 ` [PATCH RFC - TAKE TWO - 03/12] block, bfq: improve throughput boosting Paolo Valente
2014-05-29 9:05 ` [PATCH RFC - TAKE TWO - 04/12] block, bfq: modify the peak-rate estimator Paolo Valente
2014-05-29 9:05 ` [PATCH RFC - TAKE TWO - 05/12] block, bfq: add more fairness to boost throughput and reduce latency Paolo Valente
2014-05-29 9:05 ` [PATCH RFC - TAKE TWO - 06/12] block, bfq: improve responsiveness Paolo Valente
2014-05-30 15:41 ` Tejun Heo
2014-05-29 9:05 ` [PATCH RFC - TAKE TWO - 07/12] block, bfq: reduce I/O latency for soft real-time applications Paolo Valente
2014-05-29 9:05 ` [PATCH RFC - TAKE TWO - 08/12] block, bfq: preserve a low latency also with NCQ-capable drives Paolo Valente
2014-05-31 13:48 ` Tejun Heo
2014-06-02 9:58 ` Paolo Valente
2014-05-29 9:05 ` [PATCH RFC - TAKE TWO - 09/12] block, bfq: reduce latency during request-pool saturation Paolo Valente
2014-05-31 13:54 ` Tejun Heo
2014-06-02 9:54 ` Paolo Valente
2014-05-29 9:05 ` [PATCH RFC - TAKE TWO - 10/12] block, bfq: add Early Queue Merge (EQM) Paolo Valente
2014-06-01 0:03 ` Tejun Heo
2014-06-02 9:46 ` Paolo Valente
2014-06-03 16:28 ` Tejun Heo
2014-06-04 11:47 ` Paolo Valente
2014-06-04 13:04 ` Tejun Heo
2014-06-16 11:23 ` Paolo Valente
2014-05-29 9:05 ` [PATCH RFC - TAKE TWO - 11/12] block, bfq: boost the throughput on NCQ-capable flash-based devices Paolo Valente
2014-05-30 15:46 ` Tejun Heo
2014-05-30 22:01 ` Paolo Valente
2014-05-31 11:52 ` Tejun Heo
2014-06-02 9:26 ` Paolo Valente
2014-06-03 17:11 ` Tejun Heo
2014-06-04 7:29 ` Paolo Valente
2014-06-04 13:56 ` Tejun Heo
2014-06-16 10:46 ` Paolo Valente
2014-06-19 1:14 ` Tejun Heo
2014-05-29 9:05 ` [PATCH RFC - TAKE TWO - 12/12] block, bfq: boost the throughput with random I/O on NCQ-capable HDDs Paolo Valente
2014-05-30 15:51 ` Tejun Heo
2014-05-31 13:34 ` Tejun Heo
2014-05-30 16:07 ` [PATCH RFC - TAKE TWO - 00/12] New version of the BFQ I/O Scheduler Tejun Heo
2014-05-30 22:23 ` Paolo Valente
2014-05-30 23:28 ` Tejun Heo
2014-05-30 23:54 ` Paolo Valente
2014-06-02 11:14 ` Pavel Machek
2014-06-02 13:02 ` Pavel Machek
2014-06-03 16:54 ` Paolo Valente
2014-06-03 20:40 ` Pavel Machek
2014-06-04 8:39 ` Pavel Machek
2014-06-04 9:08 ` Pavel Machek
2014-06-04 10:03 ` BFQ speed tests [was Re: [PATCH RFC - TAKE TWO - 00/12] New version of the BFQ I/O Scheduler] Pavel Machek
2014-06-04 10:24 ` Paolo Valente
2014-06-04 11:59 ` Takashi Iwai
2014-06-04 12:12 ` Paolo Valente
2014-06-11 20:45 ` Paolo Valente
2014-06-13 16:21 ` Takashi Iwai
2014-06-11 20:39 ` Paolo Valente
2014-06-02 17:33 ` [PATCH RFC - TAKE TWO - 00/12] New version of the BFQ I/O Scheduler Tejun Heo
2014-06-03 4:12 ` Mike Galbraith
2014-06-04 22:31 ` Pavel Machek
2014-06-05 2:14 ` Jens Axboe
2014-05-31 0:48 ` Jens Axboe
2014-05-31 5:16 ` Tejun Heo
2014-06-02 14:29 ` Jens Axboe [this message]
2014-06-02 17:24 ` Tejun Heo
2014-06-02 17:32 ` Jens Axboe
2014-06-02 17:42 ` Tejun Heo
2014-06-02 17:46 ` Jens Axboe
2014-06-02 18:51 ` Tejun Heo
2014-06-02 20:57 ` Jens Axboe
2014-06-04 14:31 ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-06-04 14:50 ` Tejun Heo
2014-06-04 14:53 ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-06-04 14:58 ` Tejun Heo
2014-06-04 17:51 ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-06-17 15:55 ` Paolo Valente
2014-06-19 1:46 ` Tejun Heo
2014-06-19 1:49 ` Tejun Heo
2014-06-19 2:29 ` Jens Axboe
2014-06-23 13:53 ` Paolo Valente
2014-06-23 19:20 ` Tejun Heo
2014-07-09 20:54 ` Paolo Valente
2014-05-27 12:42 ` [PATCH RFC RESEND 02/14] block: introduce the BFQ-v0 I/O scheduler paolo
2014-05-27 12:42 ` [PATCH RFC RESEND 03/14] block: add hierarchical-support option to kconfig paolo
2014-05-27 12:42 ` [PATCH RFC RESEND 04/14] block, bfq: add full hierarchical scheduling and cgroups support paolo
2014-05-27 12:42 ` [PATCH RFC RESEND 05/14] block, bfq: improve throughput boosting paolo
2014-05-27 12:42 ` [PATCH RFC RESEND 06/14] block, bfq: modify the peak-rate estimator paolo
2014-05-27 12:42 ` [PATCH RFC RESEND 07/14] block, bfq: add more fairness to boost throughput and reduce latency paolo
2014-05-27 12:42 ` [PATCH RFC RESEND 08/14] block, bfq: improve responsiveness paolo
2014-05-27 12:42 ` [PATCH RFC RESEND 09/14] block, bfq: reduce I/O latency for soft real-time applications paolo
2014-05-27 12:42 ` [PATCH RFC RESEND 10/14] block, bfq: preserve a low latency also with NCQ-capable drives paolo
2014-05-27 12:42 ` [PATCH RFC RESEND 11/14] block, bfq: reduce latency during request-pool saturation paolo
2014-05-27 12:42 ` [PATCH RFC RESEND 12/14] block, bfq: add Early Queue Merge (EQM) paolo
2014-05-27 12:42 ` [PATCH RFC RESEND 13/14] block, bfq: boost the throughput on NCQ-capable flash-based devices paolo
2014-05-27 12:42 ` [PATCH RFC RESEND 14/14] block, bfq: boost the throughput with random I/O on NCQ-capable HDDs paolo
2014-05-30 15:32 ` [PATCH RFC RESEND 00/14] New version of the BFQ I/O Scheduler Vivek Goyal
2014-05-30 16:16 ` Tejun Heo
2014-05-30 17:09 ` Vivek Goyal
2014-05-30 17:26 ` Tejun Heo
2014-05-30 17:55 ` Vivek Goyal
2014-05-30 17:59 ` Tejun Heo
2014-05-30 23:33 ` Paolo Valente
2014-05-30 17:31 ` Vivek Goyal
2014-05-30 17:39 ` Tejun Heo
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