From: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@linux.intel.com>
To: "Theodore Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>,
George Spelvin <linux@horizon.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, mingo@kernel.org, price@mit.edu
Subject: Re: drivers/char/random.c: More futzing about
Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2014 09:48:31 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <5398885F.10206@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140611163818.GD27151@thunk.org>
On 06/11/2014 09:38 AM, Theodore Ts'o wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 09, 2014 at 09:17:38AM -0400, George Spelvin wrote:
>> Here's an example of a smaller, faster, and better fast_mix() function.
>> The mix is invertible (thus preserving entropy), but causes each input
>> bit or pair of bits to avalanche to at least 43 bits after 2 rounds and
>> 120 bit0 after 3.
>
> I've been looking at your fast_mix2(), and it does look interesting.
>
>> For comparison, with the current linear fast_mix function, bits above
>> the 12th in the data words only affect 4 other bits after one repetition.
>>
>> With 3 iterations, it runs in 2/3 the time of the current fast_mix
>> and is half the size: 84 bytes of object code as opposed to 168.
>
> ... but how did you measure the "2/3 the time"? I've done some
> measurements, using both "time calling fast_mix() and fast_mix2() N
> times and divide by N (where N needs to be quite large). Using that
> metric, fast_mix2() takes seven times as long to run.
>
> If I only run the two mixing functions once, and use RDTSC to measure
> the time, fast_mix2() takes only three times as long. (That's because
> the memory cache effects are much less, which favors fast_mix2).
>
> But either way, fast_mix2() is slower than the current fast_mix(), and
> using the measurements that are as advantageous (and most realistic)
> that I could come up with, it's still three times slower.
>
> My measurements were done using Intel 2.8 GHz quad-core i7-4900MQ CPU.
>
While talking about performance, I did a quick prototype of random using
Skein instead of SHA-1, and it was measurably faster, in part because
Skein produces more output per hash.
-hpa
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-06-11 16:48 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-06-09 0:05 [RFC PATCH] drivers/char/random.c: Is reducing locking range like this safe? George Spelvin
2014-06-09 1:35 ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-06-09 2:10 ` George Spelvin
2014-06-09 2:18 ` George Spelvin
2014-06-09 4:03 ` George Spelvin
2014-06-09 9:23 ` George Spelvin
2014-06-09 13:34 ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-06-09 15:04 ` George Spelvin
2014-06-09 15:50 ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-06-09 16:11 ` George Spelvin
2014-06-10 0:20 ` drivers/char/random.c: more ruminations George Spelvin
2014-06-10 1:20 ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-06-10 3:10 ` George Spelvin
2014-06-10 15:25 ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-06-10 20:40 ` George Spelvin
2014-06-10 21:20 ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-06-11 0:10 ` George Spelvin
2014-06-11 2:08 ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-06-11 3:58 ` George Spelvin
2014-06-11 13:11 ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-06-12 0:42 ` George Spelvin
2014-06-12 1:03 ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-06-11 4:34 ` George Spelvin
2014-06-11 13:09 ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-06-11 2:21 ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-06-09 13:17 ` drivers/char/random.c: More futzing about George Spelvin
2014-06-11 16:38 ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-06-11 16:48 ` H. Peter Anvin [this message]
2014-06-11 19:25 ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-06-11 20:41 ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-06-12 0:44 ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-06-12 1:51 ` George Spelvin
2014-06-12 0:32 ` George Spelvin
2014-06-12 3:22 ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-06-12 4:13 ` random: Benchamrking fast_mix2 George Spelvin
2014-06-12 11:18 ` George Spelvin
2014-06-12 20:17 ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-06-12 20:46 ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-06-13 0:23 ` George Spelvin
2014-06-13 15:52 ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-06-14 2:10 ` George Spelvin
2014-06-14 3:06 ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-06-14 5:25 ` George Spelvin
2014-06-14 6:24 ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-06-14 8:03 ` George Spelvin
2014-06-14 11:14 ` George Spelvin
2014-06-14 15:13 ` George Spelvin
2014-06-14 16:33 ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-06-15 0:23 ` George Spelvin
2014-06-15 1:17 ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-06-15 6:58 ` George Spelvin
2014-06-15 13:01 ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-06-14 6:27 ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-06-14 4:55 ` [RFC] random: is the IRQF_TIMER test working as intended? George Spelvin
2014-06-14 6:43 ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-06-14 7:23 ` George Spelvin
2014-06-12 3:43 ` drivers/char/random.c: More futzing about George Spelvin
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