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From: Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>
To: Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
	peterz@infradead.org, mingo@kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux@arm.linux.org.uk,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Cc: preeti@linux.vnet.ibm.com, Morten.Rasmussen@arm.com,
	efault@gmx.de, nicolas.pitre@linaro.org,
	linaro-kernel@lists.linaro.org, daniel.lezcano@linaro.org,
	dietmar.eggemann@arm.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 01/12] sched: fix imbalance flag reset
Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2014 23:36:26 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <53BCB8BA.3070904@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <53BCB170.9020005@redhat.com>

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On 07/08/2014 11:05 PM, Rik van Riel wrote:
> On 06/30/2014 12:05 PM, Vincent Guittot wrote:
>> The imbalance flag can stay set whereas there is no imbalance.
> 
>> Let assume that we have 3 tasks that run on a dual cores /dual 
>> cluster system. We will have some idle load balance which are 
>> triggered during tick. Unfortunately, the tick is also used to 
>> queue background work so we can reach the situation where short 
>> work has been queued on a CPU which already runs a task. The
>> load balance will detect this imbalance (2 tasks on 1 CPU and an
>> idle CPU) and will try to pull the waiting task on the idle CPU.
>> The waiting task is a worker thread that is pinned on a CPU so
>> an imbalance due to pinned task is detected and the imbalance
>> flag is set. Then, we will not be able to clear the flag because
>> we have at most 1 task on each CPU but the imbalance flag will
>> trig to useless active load balance between the idle CPU and the
>> busy CPU.
> 
>> We need to reset of the imbalance flag as soon as we have reached
>> a balanced state.
> 
>> Signed-off-by: Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>
> 
> Acked-by: Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>

Never mind that, Preeti explained the failure mode in more detail
on irc, and I am no longer convinced this change is a good idea.

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  reply	other threads:[~2014-07-09  3:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-06-30 16:05 [PATCH v3 00/12] sched: consolidation of cpu_power Vincent Guittot
2014-06-30 16:05 ` [PATCH v3 01/12] sched: fix imbalance flag reset Vincent Guittot
2014-07-08  3:13   ` Preeti U Murthy
2014-07-08 10:12     ` Vincent Guittot
2014-07-09  3:54       ` Preeti U Murthy
2014-07-09  8:27         ` Vincent Guittot
2014-07-09 10:43         ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-07-09 11:41           ` Preeti U Murthy
2014-07-09 14:44             ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-07-10  9:14           ` Vincent Guittot
2014-07-10  9:30             ` [PATCH v4 ] " Vincent Guittot
2014-07-10 10:57               ` Preeti U Murthy
2014-07-10 11:04             ` [PATCH v3 01/12] " Preeti U Murthy
2014-07-09  3:05   ` Rik van Riel
2014-07-09  3:36     ` Rik van Riel [this message]
2014-07-09 10:14   ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-07-09 10:30     ` Vincent Guittot
2014-06-30 16:05 ` [PATCH v3 02/12] sched: remove a wake_affine condition Vincent Guittot
2014-07-09  3:06   ` Rik van Riel
2014-06-30 16:05 ` [PATCH v3 03/12] sched: fix avg_load computation Vincent Guittot
2014-07-09  3:10   ` Rik van Riel
2014-06-30 16:05 ` [PATCH v3 04/12] sched: Allow all archs to set the power_orig Vincent Guittot
2014-07-09  3:11   ` Rik van Riel
2014-07-09 10:57   ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-07-10 13:42     ` Vincent Guittot
2014-06-30 16:05 ` [PATCH v3 05/12] ARM: topology: use new cpu_power interface Vincent Guittot
2014-07-09  3:11   ` Rik van Riel
2014-07-09  7:49   ` Amit Kucheria
2014-07-09 10:09     ` Vincent Guittot
2014-06-30 16:05 ` [PATCH v3 06/12] sched: add per rq cpu_power_orig Vincent Guittot
2014-07-09  3:11   ` Rik van Riel
2014-07-09  7:50   ` Amit Kucheria
2014-06-30 16:05 ` [PATCH v3 07/12] sched: test the cpu's capacity in wake affine Vincent Guittot
2014-07-09  3:12   ` Rik van Riel
2014-07-10 11:06   ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-07-10 13:58     ` Vincent Guittot
2014-06-30 16:05 ` [PATCH v3 08/12] sched: move cfs task on a CPU with higher capacity Vincent Guittot
2014-07-10 11:18   ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-07-10 14:03     ` Vincent Guittot
2014-07-11 14:51       ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-07-11 15:17         ` Vincent Guittot
2014-07-14 13:51           ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-07-15  9:21             ` Vincent Guittot
2014-07-10 11:24   ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-07-10 13:59     ` Vincent Guittot
2014-07-10 11:31   ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-06-30 16:05 ` [PATCH v3 09/12] Revert "sched: Put rq's sched_avg under CONFIG_FAIR_GROUP_SCHED" Vincent Guittot
2014-07-10 13:16   ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-07-11  7:51     ` Vincent Guittot
2014-07-11 15:13       ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-07-11 17:39         ` Vincent Guittot
2014-07-11 20:12           ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-07-14 12:55             ` Morten Rasmussen
2014-07-14 13:20               ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-07-14 14:04                 ` Morten Rasmussen
2014-07-14 16:22                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-07-15  9:20             ` Vincent Guittot
2014-07-14 17:54           ` Dietmar Eggemann
2014-07-18  1:27             ` Yuyang Du
2014-07-11 16:13       ` Morten Rasmussen
2014-07-15  9:27         ` Vincent Guittot
2014-07-15  9:32           ` Morten Rasmussen
2014-07-15  9:53             ` Vincent Guittot
2014-06-30 16:05 ` [PATCH v3 10/12] sched: get CPU's utilization statistic Vincent Guittot
2014-06-30 16:05 ` [PATCH v3 11/12] sched: replace capacity_factor by utilization Vincent Guittot
2014-06-30 16:05 ` [PATCH v3 12/12] sched: add SD_PREFER_SIBLING for SMT level Vincent Guittot

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