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From: Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>
To: Benjamin LaHaise <bcrl@kvack.org>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	"Elliott, Robert (Server Storage)" <Elliott@hp.com>,
	"dgilbert@interlog.com" <dgilbert@interlog.com>,
	James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com>,
	Bart Van Assche <bvanassche@fusionio.com>,
	"linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org" <linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: scsi-mq V2
Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2014 15:52:16 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <53BE9A90.8010602@kernel.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140710135034.GR12478@kvack.org>

On 2014-07-10 15:50, Benjamin LaHaise wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 03:48:10PM +0200, Jens Axboe wrote:
>> On 2014-07-10 15:44, Benjamin LaHaise wrote:
>>> On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 03:39:57PM +0200, Jens Axboe wrote:
>>>> That's how fio always runs, it sets up the context with the exact queue
>>>> depth that it needs. Do we have a good enough understanding of other aio
>>>> use cases to say that this isn't the norm? I would expect it to be, it's
>>>> the way that the API would most obviously be used.
>>>
>>> The problem with this approach is that it works very poorly with per cpu
>>> reference counting's batching of references, which is pretty much a
>>> requirement now that many core systems are the norm.  Allocating the bare
>>> minimum is not the right thing to do today.  That said, the default limits
>>> on the number of requests probably needs to be raised.
>>
>> Sorry, that's a complete cop-out. Then you handle this internally,
>> allocate a bigger pool and cap the limit if you need to. Look at the
>> API. You pass in the number of requests you will use. Do you expect
>> anyone to double up, just in case? Will never happen.
>>
>> But all of this is side stepping the point that there's a real bug
>> reported here. The above could potentially explain the "it's using X
>> more CPU, or it's Y slower". The above is a softlock, it never completes.
>
> I'm not trying to cop out on this -- I'm asking for a data point to see
> if changing the request limits has any effect.

Fair enough, if the question is "does it solve the regression", then 
it's a valid data point. Rob/Doug, for fio, you can just double the 
iodepth passed in in engines/libaio:fio_libaio_init() and test with that 
and see if it makes a difference.

-- 
Jens Axboe


  reply	other threads:[~2014-07-10 13:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 83+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-06-25 16:51 scsi-mq V2 Christoph Hellwig
2014-06-25 16:51 ` [PATCH 01/14] sd: don't use rq->cmd_len before setting it up Christoph Hellwig
2014-07-09 11:12   ` Hannes Reinecke
2014-07-09 15:03     ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-06-25 16:51 ` [PATCH 02/14] scsi: split __scsi_queue_insert Christoph Hellwig
2014-07-09 11:12   ` Hannes Reinecke
2014-06-25 16:51 ` [PATCH 03/14] scsi: centralize command re-queueing in scsi_dispatch_fn Christoph Hellwig
2014-07-08 20:51   ` Elliott, Robert (Server Storage)
2014-07-09  6:40     ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-07-09 11:13   ` Hannes Reinecke
2014-06-25 16:51 ` [PATCH 04/14] scsi: set ->scsi_done before calling scsi_dispatch_cmd Christoph Hellwig
2014-07-09 11:14   ` Hannes Reinecke
2014-06-25 16:51 ` [PATCH 05/14] scsi: push host_lock down into scsi_{host,target}_queue_ready Christoph Hellwig
2014-07-09 11:14   ` Hannes Reinecke
2014-06-25 16:51 ` [PATCH 06/14] scsi: convert target_busy to an atomic_t Christoph Hellwig
2014-07-09 11:15   ` Hannes Reinecke
2014-06-25 16:51 ` [PATCH 07/14] scsi: convert host_busy to atomic_t Christoph Hellwig
2014-07-09 11:15   ` Hannes Reinecke
2014-06-25 16:51 ` [PATCH 08/14] scsi: convert device_busy " Christoph Hellwig
2014-07-09 11:16   ` Hannes Reinecke
2014-07-09 16:49   ` James Bottomley
2014-07-10  6:01     ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-06-25 16:51 ` [PATCH 09/14] scsi: fix the {host,target,device}_blocked counter mess Christoph Hellwig
2014-07-09 11:12   ` Hannes Reinecke
2014-07-10  6:06     ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-06-25 16:51 ` [PATCH 10/14] scsi: only maintain target_blocked if the driver has a target queue limit Christoph Hellwig
2014-07-09 11:19   ` Hannes Reinecke
2014-07-09 15:05     ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-06-25 16:51 ` [PATCH 11/14] scsi: unwind blk_end_request_all and blk_end_request_err calls Christoph Hellwig
2014-07-09 11:20   ` Hannes Reinecke
2014-06-25 16:51 ` [PATCH 12/14] scatterlist: allow chaining to preallocated chunks Christoph Hellwig
2014-07-09 11:21   ` Hannes Reinecke
2014-06-25 16:52 ` [PATCH 13/14] scsi: add support for a blk-mq based I/O path Christoph Hellwig
2014-07-09 11:25   ` Hannes Reinecke
2014-07-16 11:13   ` Mike Christie
2014-07-16 11:16     ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-06-25 16:52 ` [PATCH 14/14] fnic: reject device resets without assigned tags for the blk-mq case Christoph Hellwig
2014-07-09 11:27   ` Hannes Reinecke
2014-06-26  4:50 ` scsi-mq V2 Jens Axboe
2014-06-26 22:07   ` Elliott, Robert (Server Storage)
2014-06-27 14:42     ` Bart Van Assche
2014-06-30 15:20   ` Jens Axboe
2014-06-30 15:25     ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-06-30 15:54       ` Martin K. Petersen
2014-07-08 14:48 ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-07-09 16:39   ` Douglas Gilbert
2014-07-09 19:38     ` Jens Axboe
2014-07-10  0:53       ` Elliott, Robert (Server Storage)
2014-07-10  6:20         ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-07-10 13:36           ` Benjamin LaHaise
2014-07-10 13:39             ` Jens Axboe
2014-07-10 13:44               ` Benjamin LaHaise
2014-07-10 13:48                 ` Jens Axboe
2014-07-10 13:50                   ` Benjamin LaHaise
2014-07-10 13:52                     ` Jens Axboe [this message]
2014-07-10 13:50             ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-07-10 13:52               ` Jens Axboe
2014-07-10 14:36                 ` Elliott, Robert (Server Storage)
2014-07-10 14:45                   ` Benjamin LaHaise
2014-07-10 15:11                     ` Jeff Moyer
2014-07-10 19:59                       ` Jens Axboe
2014-07-10 20:05                         ` Jeff Moyer
2014-07-10 20:06                           ` Jens Axboe
2014-07-10 15:51           ` Elliott, Robert (Server Storage)
2014-07-10 16:04             ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-07-10 16:14               ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-07-10 18:49                 ` Elliott, Robert (Server Storage)
2014-07-10 19:14                   ` Jeff Moyer
2014-07-10 19:36                     ` Jeff Moyer
2014-07-10 21:10                     ` Elliott, Robert (Server Storage)
2014-07-11  6:02                       ` Elliott, Robert (Server Storage)
2014-07-11  6:14                         ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-07-11 14:33                           ` Elliott, Robert (Server Storage)
2014-07-11 14:55                             ` Benjamin LaHaise
2014-07-12 21:50                               ` Elliott, Robert (Server Storage)
2014-07-12 23:20                                 ` Elliott, Robert (Server Storage)
2014-07-13 17:15                                   ` Elliott, Robert (Server Storage)
2014-07-14 17:15                                     ` Benjamin LaHaise
2014-07-14  9:13   ` Sagi Grimberg
2014-08-21 12:32     ` Performance degradation in IO writes vs. reads (was scsi-mq V2) Sagi Grimberg
2014-08-21 13:03       ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-08-21 14:02         ` Sagi Grimberg
2014-08-24 16:41           ` Sagi Grimberg

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