From: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>
To: David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
Joonsoo Kim <iamjoonsoo.kim@lge.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@vger.kernel.org,
Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>,
Michal Nazarewicz <mina86@mina86.com>,
Naoya Horiguchi <n-horiguchi@ah.jp.nec.com>,
Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>, Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
Zhang Yanfei <zhangyanfei@cn.fujitsu.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 07/14] mm, compaction: khugepaged should not give up due to need_resched()
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2014 11:49:26 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <53D76E26.6040706@suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.02.1407290024550.7998@chino.kir.corp.google.com>
On 07/29/2014 09:31 AM, David Rientjes wrote:
> On Tue, 29 Jul 2014, Joonsoo Kim wrote:
>
>> I have a silly question here.
>> Why need_resched() is criteria to stop async compaction?
>> need_resched() is flagged up when time slice runs out or other reasons.
>> It means that we should stop async compaction at arbitrary timing
>> because process can be on compaction code at arbitrary moment. I think
>> that it isn't reasonable and it doesn't ensure anything. Instead of
>> this approach, how about doing compaction on certain amounts of pageblock
>> for async compaction?
>>
>
> Not a silly question at all, I had the same feeling in
> https://lkml.org/lkml/2014/5/21/730 and proposed it to be a tunable that
> indicates how much work we are willing to do for thp in the pagefault
> path. It suffers from the fact that past failure to isolate and/or
> migrate memory to free an entire pageblock doesn't indicate that the next
> pageblock will fail as well, but there has to be cutoff at some point or
> async compaction becomes unnecessarily expensive. We can always rely on
> khugepaged later to do the collapse, assuming we're not faulting memory
> and then immediately pinning it.
>
> I think there's two ways to go about it:
>
> - allow a single thp fault to be expensive and then rely on deferred
> compaction to avoid subsequent calls in the near future, or
>
> - try to make all thp faults be as least expensive as possible so that
> the cumulative effect of faulting large amounts of memory doesn't end
> up with lengthy stalls.
>
> Both of these are complex because of the potential for concurrent calls to
> memory compaction when faulting thp on several cpus.
>
> I also think the second point from that email still applies, that we
> should abort isolating pages within a pageblock for migration once it can
> no longer allow a cc->order allocation to succeed.
That was the RFC patch 15, I hope to reintroduce it soon. You could
still test it meanwhile to see if you see the same extfrag regression as
me. In my tests, kswapd/khugepaged wasn't doing enough work to
defragment the pageblocks that the stress-highalloc benchmark
(configured to behave like thp page fault) was skipping.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-07-29 9:49 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-07-28 13:11 [PATCH v5 00/14] compaction: balancing overhead and success rates Vlastimil Babka
2014-07-28 13:11 ` [PATCH v5 01/14] mm, THP: don't hold mmap_sem in khugepaged when allocating THP Vlastimil Babka
2014-07-28 23:39 ` David Rientjes
2014-07-28 13:11 ` [PATCH v5 02/14] mm, compaction: defer each zone individually instead of preferred zone Vlastimil Babka
2014-07-28 23:59 ` David Rientjes
2014-07-29 9:02 ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-07-29 6:38 ` Joonsoo Kim
2014-07-29 9:12 ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-07-30 16:22 ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-08-01 8:51 ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-08-04 6:45 ` Joonsoo Kim
2014-07-28 13:11 ` [PATCH v5 03/14] mm, compaction: do not count compact_stall if all zones skipped compaction Vlastimil Babka
2014-07-29 0:04 ` David Rientjes
2014-07-28 13:11 ` [PATCH v5 04/14] mm, compaction: do not recheck suitable_migration_target under lock Vlastimil Babka
2014-07-28 13:11 ` [PATCH v5 05/14] mm, compaction: move pageblock checks up from isolate_migratepages_range() Vlastimil Babka
2014-07-29 0:29 ` David Rientjes
2014-07-29 9:27 ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-07-29 23:02 ` David Rientjes
2014-07-29 23:21 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2014-07-29 23:51 ` David Rientjes
2014-07-30 9:27 ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-07-30 9:39 ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-07-28 13:11 ` [PATCH v5 06/14] mm, compaction: reduce zone checking frequency in the migration scanner Vlastimil Babka
2014-07-29 0:44 ` David Rientjes
2014-07-29 9:31 ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-07-28 13:11 ` [PATCH v5 07/14] mm, compaction: khugepaged should not give up due to need_resched() Vlastimil Babka
2014-07-29 0:59 ` David Rientjes
2014-07-29 9:45 ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-07-29 22:57 ` David Rientjes
2014-07-29 6:53 ` Joonsoo Kim
2014-07-29 7:31 ` David Rientjes
2014-07-29 8:27 ` Joonsoo Kim
2014-07-29 9:16 ` David Rientjes
2014-07-29 9:49 ` Vlastimil Babka [this message]
2014-07-29 22:53 ` David Rientjes
2014-07-30 9:08 ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-07-28 13:11 ` [PATCH v5 08/14] mm, compaction: periodically drop lock and restore IRQs in scanners Vlastimil Babka
2014-07-29 1:03 ` David Rientjes
2014-07-28 13:11 ` [PATCH v5 09/14] mm, compaction: skip rechecks when lock was already held Vlastimil Babka
2014-07-28 13:11 ` [PATCH v5 10/14] mm, compaction: remember position within pageblock in free pages scanner Vlastimil Babka
2014-07-28 13:11 ` [PATCH v5 11/14] mm, compaction: skip buddy pages by their order in the migrate scanner Vlastimil Babka
2014-07-29 1:05 ` David Rientjes
2014-07-28 13:11 ` [PATCH v5 12/14] mm: rename allocflags_to_migratetype for clarity Vlastimil Babka
2014-07-28 13:11 ` [PATCH v5 13/14] mm, compaction: pass gfp mask to compact_control Vlastimil Babka
2014-07-28 13:11 ` [PATCH v5 14/14] mm, compaction: try to capture the just-created high-order freepage Vlastimil Babka
2014-07-29 7:34 ` Joonsoo Kim
2014-07-29 15:34 ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-07-30 8:39 ` Joonsoo Kim
2014-07-30 9:56 ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-07-30 14:19 ` Joonsoo Kim
2014-07-30 15:05 ` Vlastimil Babka
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