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From: Waiman Long <waiman.long@hp.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-api@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, Davidlohr Bueso <davidlohr@hp.com>,
	Jason Low <jason.low2@hp.com>,
	Scott J Norton <scott.norton@hp.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/7] locking/rwsem: don't resched at the end of optimistic spinning
Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2014 13:54:37 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <53E11A5D.2060303@hp.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140804204824.GT3935@laptop>

On 08/04/2014 04:48 PM, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 04, 2014 at 02:36:35PM -0400, Waiman Long wrote:
>> On 08/04/2014 03:55 AM, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
>>> On Sun, Aug 03, 2014 at 10:36:16PM -0400, Waiman Long wrote:
>>>> For a fully preemptive kernel, a call to preempt_enable() could
>>>> potentially trigger a task rescheduling event. In the case of rwsem
>>>> optimistic spinning, the task has either gotten the lock or is going
>>>> to sleep soon. So there is no point to do rescheduling here.
>>> Uh what? Why shouldn't we preempt if we've gotten the lock? What if a
>>> FIFO task just woke up?
>> I didn't mean that we shouldn't preempt if there is a higher priority task.
>> I am sure that there will be other preemption points along the way that a
>> higher priority task can take over the CPU. I just want to say that doing it
>> here may not be the best place especially if the task is going to sleep
>> soon.
>>
>> If you think this patch does not make sense, I can remove it as other
>> patches in the set has no dependency on this one.
> Yeah, its actively harmful, you delay preemption by an unspecified
> amount of time in case of the spin-acquire. We've had such bugs in -rt
> and they're not fun.
>
> Basically the only time you should use no_resched is if the very next
> statement is schedule().

Thank for the clarification. I will remove patch 1 from the patch set.

-Longman

  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-08-05 17:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-08-04  2:36 [PATCH 0/7] locking/rwsem: enable reader opt-spinning & writer respin Waiman Long
2014-08-04  2:36 ` [PATCH 1/7] locking/rwsem: don't resched at the end of optimistic spinning Waiman Long
2014-08-04  7:55   ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-08-04 18:36     ` Waiman Long
2014-08-04 20:48       ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-08-04 21:12         ` Jason Low
2014-08-05 17:54         ` Waiman Long [this message]
2014-08-04  2:36 ` [PATCH 2/7] locking/rwsem: more aggressive use " Waiman Long
2014-08-04  4:09   ` Davidlohr Bueso
2014-08-04  4:10   ` Jason Low
2014-08-04 15:44     ` Waiman Long
2014-08-13  5:51       ` Dave Chinner
2014-08-13 16:41         ` Waiman Long
2014-08-15  3:34           ` Dave Chinner
2014-08-15 17:58             ` Waiman Long
2014-08-16  7:40               ` Mike Galbraith
2014-08-17 23:41               ` Dave Chinner
2014-08-18 22:48                 ` Waiman Long
2014-08-04  2:36 ` [PATCH 3/7] locking/rwsem: check for active writer/spinner before wakeup Waiman Long
2014-08-04 21:20   ` Jason Low
2014-08-05 17:56     ` Waiman Long
2014-08-04  2:36 ` [PATCH 4/7] locking/rwsem: threshold limited spinning for active readers Waiman Long
2014-08-05  4:54   ` Davidlohr Bueso
2014-08-05  5:30     ` Davidlohr Bueso
2014-08-05  5:41       ` Davidlohr Bueso
2014-08-05 18:14     ` Waiman Long
2014-08-04  2:36 ` [PATCH 5/7] locking/rwsem: move down rwsem_down_read_failed function Waiman Long
2014-08-04  2:36 ` [PATCH 6/7] locking/rwsem: enables optimistic spinning for readers Waiman Long
2014-08-04  2:36 ` [PATCH 7/7] locking/rwsem: allow waiting writers to go back to optimistic spinning Waiman Long
2014-08-04  4:25 ` [PATCH 0/7] locking/rwsem: enable reader opt-spinning & writer respin Davidlohr Bueso
2014-08-04 18:07   ` Waiman Long

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