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From: Alexander Holler <holler@ahsoftware.de>
To: Rogelio Serrano <rogelio.serrano@gmail.com>
Cc: "Borislav Petkov" <bp@alien8.de>,
	"Peter Zijlstra" <peterz@infradead.org>,
	"Måns Rullgård" <mans@mansr.com>,
	"Steven Rostedt" <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	"Christopher Barry" <christopher.r.barry@gmail.com>,
	"Linux Kernel Mailing List" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: OT: Open letter to the Linux World
Date: Thu, 04 Sep 2014 20:33:13 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5408B069.9080708@ahsoftware.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CANszf4jauBAhaTogvSprhhspKywXSu_8xkWh+ETsWMMUDKo0=g@mail.gmail.com>

Am 04.09.2014 20:27, schrieb Rogelio Serrano:
> On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 7:15 PM, Alexander Holler <holler@ahsoftware.de> wrote:
>> Am 13.08.2014 11:00, schrieb Borislav Petkov:
>>
>>> On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 10:27:56AM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
>>>>
>>>> And the thing is; we're all very busy so we tend to take the 'easy'
>>>> way out for things like this; but wholesale switching all my machines
>>>> is indeed painful, and I'm not liking.
>>>
>>>
>>> Right, I think kernel people will gladly jump on a sane solution devoid
>>> of that kids-jerking-off-on-linux-desktop-just-for-the-fun-of-it
>>> situation if someone would present them with one. So, if someone would
>>> come up and do a sane init design without the jerking off, kernel people
>>> would jump on that in a heartbeat. Someone might even start getting
>>> patches from them too. ^^Hint^^ ^^hint^^.
>>>
>>> :-)
>>
>>
>> Hmm, a sane and maintainable solution would use C++ with which people don't
>> have to manually build lists or hashes for every structure like in the
>> kernel (generic programming done right). So you won't find much kernel
>> developers there. ;)
>>
>
> Seriously Dude?
>
> Have you tried it? I was using c++ before during and after the stl was
> standardised
> and the memories of the resulting induced self hair pulling still
> gives me the shivers.
> Try writing a real time kernel with full c++ support. You have to
> provide the entire c++
> runtime in the kernel!
>
> I still do a little c++ programming when i am forced to but its only
> in small pieces.
> Ill go crazy otherwise.

I've started to use C++ when only precompilers (to translate C++ to C) 
were available. That was long before the STL was standardised.


  reply	other threads:[~2014-09-04 18:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-08-12 19:38 OT: Open letter to the Linux World Christopher Barry
2014-08-12 20:21 ` Steven Rostedt
2014-08-12 20:44   ` Borislav Petkov
2014-08-12 22:07   ` Måns Rullgård
2014-08-13  8:27     ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-08-13  9:00       ` Borislav Petkov
2014-08-18 18:15         ` Alexander Holler
2014-09-04  7:54           ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-09-04 10:16             ` Alexander Holler
2014-09-04 14:36               ` Austin S Hemmelgarn
2014-09-04 17:29                 ` Alexander Holler
2014-09-04 17:58                   ` Austin S Hemmelgarn
2014-09-04 18:11                     ` Alexander Holler
2014-09-04 18:27           ` Rogelio Serrano
2014-09-04 18:33             ` Alexander Holler [this message]
2014-09-04 19:18               ` Rob Landley
2014-09-05  6:31                 ` Alexander Holler
2014-09-06 20:01                   ` Alexander Holler
2014-09-06 23:44                     ` Lennart Sorensen
2014-09-07  1:42                       ` Alexander Holler
2014-08-13  9:24       ` Måns Rullgård
2014-08-13  9:31         ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-08-13  9:37           ` Måns Rullgård
2014-08-13  9:37       ` Martin Steigerwald
2014-08-13  9:52         ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-08-13  9:59           ` Martin Steigerwald
2014-08-13  9:54         ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-08-13  9:57         ` Måns Rullgård
2014-08-13 10:21           ` Martin Steigerwald
2014-08-13 20:19       ` William Pitcock
2014-08-14  1:08 ` Robert Hancock
2014-08-15 18:41 ` Jaswinder Singh
2015-04-08 13:12 ` Denys Vlasenko
2015-04-09  0:37   ` Rob Landley
2015-04-09 18:18     ` Denys Vlasenko
2015-04-10 12:40     ` Rogelio M. Serrano Jr.
2015-04-10 21:20     ` Aaro Koskinen
2015-04-11  1:08       ` Rob Landley
     [not found] <E1XHxA6-0000ar-2a@feisty.vs19.net>
2014-08-15  8:59 ` Vlad Glagolev
2014-08-15 14:04   ` Gene Heskett
2014-08-16 21:10   ` Rob Landley

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