From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1753267AbaIHSIg (ORCPT ); Mon, 8 Sep 2014 14:08:36 -0400 Received: from terminus.zytor.com ([198.137.202.10]:58406 "EHLO mail.zytor.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752665AbaIHSIf (ORCPT ); Mon, 8 Sep 2014 14:08:35 -0400 Message-ID: <540DF078.3030601@zytor.com> Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2014 11:07:52 -0700 From: "H. Peter Anvin" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: One Thousand Gnomes , Pavel Machek CC: John Stultz , ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org, lkml , Thomas Gleixner , Arnd Bergmann , "Joseph S. Myers" Subject: Re: (Resend) 2038 Kernel Summit Discussion Fodder References: <53EAAC95.7080301@linaro.org> <20140823222640.GA1382@xo-6d-61-c0.localdomain> <20140908185544.621022b6@alan.etchedpixels.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <20140908185544.621022b6@alan.etchedpixels.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On 09/08/2014 10:55 AM, One Thousand Gnomes wrote: >> Today, there's good chance there's linux somewhere in your car. (Dashboard, >> entertainment system). People like to keep cars from 1910 working, and I suspect >> that is not going to change. >> >> So yes, in 2038 people will be running 32bit linux. >> >> Whether there will be people putting 32bit linux into new devices is a question, >> but I suspect answer is still yes. > > I'm currently trying to add 64bit longlong support to an initial PCC 8086 > compiler port so I can fix that for some 16bit projects 8-) > > My 8bit machines are mostly 2038 safe already. > Back in 1985 I decided to Y2K-test my ABC800 8-bit computer. It passed (they had implemented a windowed year solution which breaks in 2070 or 2080, as I recall.) -hpa