From: Nicolas Dichtel <nicolas.dichtel@6wind.com>
To: Cong Wang <cwang@twopensource.com>
Cc: netdev <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
containers@lists.linux-foundation.org,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
linux-api@vger.kernel.org, David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
Stephen Hemminger <stephen@networkplumber.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH net-next v2 0/5] netns: allow to identify peer netns
Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2014 15:38:57 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <54256C71.20108@6wind.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHA+R7OdOUMShX6Nphdfh8+fGiXyO+sGNHy0ch_XYh5dpURcmQ@mail.gmail.com>
Le 26/09/2014 03:58, Cong Wang a écrit :
> On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 1:53 AM, Nicolas Dichtel
> <nicolas.dichtel@6wind.com> wrote:
>> Le 24/09/2014 18:48, Cong Wang a écrit :
>>
>>> On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 9:31 AM, Nicolas Dichtel
>>> <nicolas.dichtel@6wind.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I think in this case your ID's are still available, but aren't you
>>>>> providing a new way
>>>>> for the inner netns device to escape which we are trying to avoid?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It's why the ids depend on user ns. Only if user ns are the same we allow
>>>> to
>>>> get an id for a peer netns.
>>>
>>>
>>> Too late, userns is relatively new, relying on it breaks our existing
>>> assumption.
>>>
>> I don't get your point. netns has been added in kernel after user ns:
>> acce292c82d4 user namespace: add the framework => 2.6.23
>> 5f256becd868 [NET]: Basic network namespace infrastructure. => 2.6.24
>
> Was it complete on 2.6.x? I doubt...
>
> https://lkml.org/lkml/2014/8/20/826
>
> As at Linux 3.8, most relevant subsystems supported user names‐
> paces, but a number of filesystems did not have the infrastruc‐
> ture needed to map user and group IDs between user namespaces.
> Linux 3.9 added the required infrastructure support for many of
> the remaining unsupported filesystems (Plan 9 (9P), Andrew File
> System (AFS), Ceph, CIFS, CODA, NFS, and OCFS2). Linux 3.11
> added support the last of the unsupported major filesystems, XFS.
>
>
>>
>> In the kernel, each netns is linked with a user ns.
>
> Are you saying every time we create a netns we have a new userns?
> This doesn't make sense for me.
>
No. I mean that each netns depends on a userns.
See include/net/net_namespace.h:
struct net {
[snip]
struct user_namespace *user_ns; /* Owning user namespace */
[snip]
}
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-09-26 13:39 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-09-23 13:20 [RFC PATCH net-next v2 0/5] netns: allow to identify peer netns Nicolas Dichtel
2014-09-23 13:20 ` [RFC PATCH net-next v2 1/5] netns: allocate netns ids Nicolas Dichtel
2014-09-23 13:20 ` [RFC PATCH net-next v2 2/5] netns: add genl cmd to get the id of a netns Nicolas Dichtel
2014-09-23 13:20 ` [RFC PATCH net-next v2 3/5] rtnl: add link netns id to interface messages Nicolas Dichtel
2014-09-23 13:20 ` [RFC PATCH net-next v2 4/5] iptunnels: advertise link netns via netlink Nicolas Dichtel
2014-09-23 13:20 ` [RFC PATCH net-next v2 5/5] rtnl: allow to create device with IFLA_LINK_NETNSID set Nicolas Dichtel
2014-09-23 19:22 ` [RFC PATCH net-next v2 0/5] netns: allow to identify peer netns Cong Wang
2014-09-24 9:23 ` Nicolas Dichtel
2014-09-24 16:01 ` Cong Wang
2014-09-24 16:15 ` Cong Wang
2014-09-24 16:31 ` Nicolas Dichtel
2014-09-24 16:48 ` Cong Wang
2014-09-25 8:53 ` Nicolas Dichtel
2014-09-26 1:58 ` Cong Wang
2014-09-26 13:38 ` Nicolas Dichtel [this message]
2014-09-24 16:27 ` Nicolas Dichtel
2014-09-24 16:45 ` Cong Wang
2014-09-25 8:53 ` Nicolas Dichtel
2014-09-26 2:09 ` Cong Wang
2014-09-26 13:40 ` Nicolas Dichtel
2014-09-26 19:15 ` David Ahern
2014-09-26 19:34 ` Eric W. Biederman
2014-09-26 19:44 ` David Ahern
2014-09-26 20:45 ` Eric W. Biederman
2014-09-26 20:56 ` David Ahern
2014-09-23 19:26 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-09-24 9:31 ` Nicolas Dichtel
2014-09-24 17:05 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-09-25 7:54 ` Nicolas Dichtel
2014-09-26 18:10 ` Eric W. Biederman
2014-09-26 18:26 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-09-26 18:57 ` Eric W. Biederman
2014-09-29 12:06 ` Nicolas Dichtel
2014-09-29 18:43 ` Eric W. Biederman
2014-10-02 13:46 ` Nicolas Dichtel
2014-10-02 13:48 ` [RFC PATCH net-next v3 0/4] " Nicolas Dichtel
2014-10-02 13:48 ` [RFC PATCH net-next v3 1/4] netns: add genl cmd to add and get peer netns ids Nicolas Dichtel
2014-10-02 19:33 ` Eric W. Biederman
2014-10-03 12:22 ` Nicolas Dichtel
2014-10-02 13:48 ` [RFC PATCH net-next v3 2/4] rtnl: add link netns id to interface messages Nicolas Dichtel
2014-10-02 13:48 ` [RFC PATCH net-next v3 3/4] iptunnels: advertise link netns via netlink Nicolas Dichtel
2014-10-02 13:48 ` [RFC PATCH net-next v3 4/4] rtnl: allow to create device with IFLA_LINK_NETNSID set Nicolas Dichtel
2014-10-30 15:25 ` [PATCH net-next v4 0/4] netns: allow to identify peer netns Nicolas Dichtel
2014-10-30 15:25 ` [PATCH net-next v4 1/4] netns: add genl cmd to add and get peer netns ids Nicolas Dichtel
2014-10-30 18:35 ` Eric W. Biederman
2014-10-31 9:41 ` Nicolas Dichtel
2014-10-30 15:25 ` [PATCH net-next v4 2/4] rtnl: add link netns id to interface messages Nicolas Dichtel
2014-10-30 15:25 ` [PATCH net-next v4 3/4] iptunnels: advertise link netns via netlink Nicolas Dichtel
2014-10-30 15:25 ` [PATCH net-next v4 4/4] rtnl: allow to create device with IFLA_LINK_NETNSID set Nicolas Dichtel
2014-10-30 18:41 ` [PATCH net-next v4 0/4] netns: allow to identify peer netns Eric W. Biederman
2014-10-31 9:48 ` Nicolas Dichtel
2014-10-31 19:14 ` Eric W. Biederman
2014-11-05 14:23 ` Nicolas Dichtel
2014-12-04 16:21 ` Nicolas Dichtel
2015-01-15 14:11 ` [PATCH net-next v5 " Nicolas Dichtel
2015-01-15 14:11 ` [PATCH net-next v5 1/4] netns: add rtnl cmd to add and get peer netns ids Nicolas Dichtel
2015-01-15 14:11 ` [PATCH net-next v5 2/4] rtnl: add link netns id to interface messages Nicolas Dichtel
2015-01-15 14:11 ` [PATCH net-next v5 3/4] tunnels: advertise link netns via netlink Nicolas Dichtel
2015-01-15 14:11 ` [PATCH net-next v5 4/4] rtnl: allow to create device with IFLA_LINK_NETNSID set Nicolas Dichtel
2015-01-19 19:16 ` [PATCH net-next v5 0/4] netns: allow to identify peer netns David Miller
2014-11-01 21:08 ` [PATCH net-next v4 " David Miller
2014-11-24 13:45 ` Nicolas Dichtel
2014-10-02 19:20 ` [RFC PATCH net-next v2 0/5] " Eric W. Biederman
2014-10-02 19:31 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-10-02 19:45 ` Eric W. Biederman
2014-10-02 19:48 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-10-03 12:22 ` Nicolas Dichtel
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