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From: David Ahern <lxhacker68@gmail.com>
To: nicolas.dichtel@6wind.com, Cong Wang <cwang@twopensource.com>
Cc: netdev <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	containers@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-api@vger.kernel.org, David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
	Stephen Hemminger <stephen@networkplumber.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH net-next v2 0/5] netns: allow to identify peer netns
Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2014 13:15:10 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5425BB3E.10700@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <54256CCB.4000709@6wind.com>

On 9/26/14, 7:40 AM, Nicolas Dichtel wrote:
>>
>>
>> No, I don't want to monitor anything. Even if I wanted, I would just
>> start one
>> daemon in each netns instead of one for all.
> Ok you don't want, but some other people (not only me) want it! And
> having one
> daemon per netns does not scale: there are scenarii with thousand netns
> which
> are dynamically created and deleted.

An example of the scaling problem using quagga (old but still seems to 
be a relevant data point):

 
https://lists.quagga.net/pipermail/quagga-users/2010-February/011351.html

"2k VRFs that would be 2.6G"

And that does not include the overhead of each namespace -- roughly 
200kB/namespace on one kernel I checked (v3.10). So that's a ballpark of 
3G of memory.

David

  reply	other threads:[~2014-09-26 19:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-09-23 13:20 [RFC PATCH net-next v2 0/5] netns: allow to identify peer netns Nicolas Dichtel
2014-09-23 13:20 ` [RFC PATCH net-next v2 1/5] netns: allocate netns ids Nicolas Dichtel
2014-09-23 13:20 ` [RFC PATCH net-next v2 2/5] netns: add genl cmd to get the id of a netns Nicolas Dichtel
2014-09-23 13:20 ` [RFC PATCH net-next v2 3/5] rtnl: add link netns id to interface messages Nicolas Dichtel
2014-09-23 13:20 ` [RFC PATCH net-next v2 4/5] iptunnels: advertise link netns via netlink Nicolas Dichtel
2014-09-23 13:20 ` [RFC PATCH net-next v2 5/5] rtnl: allow to create device with IFLA_LINK_NETNSID set Nicolas Dichtel
2014-09-23 19:22 ` [RFC PATCH net-next v2 0/5] netns: allow to identify peer netns Cong Wang
2014-09-24  9:23   ` Nicolas Dichtel
2014-09-24 16:01     ` Cong Wang
2014-09-24 16:15       ` Cong Wang
2014-09-24 16:31         ` Nicolas Dichtel
2014-09-24 16:48           ` Cong Wang
2014-09-25  8:53             ` Nicolas Dichtel
2014-09-26  1:58               ` Cong Wang
2014-09-26 13:38                 ` Nicolas Dichtel
2014-09-24 16:27       ` Nicolas Dichtel
2014-09-24 16:45         ` Cong Wang
2014-09-25  8:53           ` Nicolas Dichtel
2014-09-26  2:09             ` Cong Wang
2014-09-26 13:40               ` Nicolas Dichtel
2014-09-26 19:15                 ` David Ahern [this message]
2014-09-26 19:34                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2014-09-26 19:44                     ` David Ahern
2014-09-26 20:45                       ` Eric W. Biederman
2014-09-26 20:56                         ` David Ahern
2014-09-23 19:26 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-09-24  9:31   ` Nicolas Dichtel
2014-09-24 17:05     ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-09-25  7:54       ` Nicolas Dichtel
2014-09-26 18:10 ` Eric W. Biederman
2014-09-26 18:26   ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-09-26 18:57     ` Eric W. Biederman
2014-09-29 12:06       ` Nicolas Dichtel
2014-09-29 18:43         ` Eric W. Biederman
2014-10-02 13:46           ` Nicolas Dichtel
2014-10-02 13:48             ` [RFC PATCH net-next v3 0/4] " Nicolas Dichtel
2014-10-02 13:48               ` [RFC PATCH net-next v3 1/4] netns: add genl cmd to add and get peer netns ids Nicolas Dichtel
2014-10-02 19:33                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2014-10-03 12:22                   ` Nicolas Dichtel
2014-10-02 13:48               ` [RFC PATCH net-next v3 2/4] rtnl: add link netns id to interface messages Nicolas Dichtel
2014-10-02 13:48               ` [RFC PATCH net-next v3 3/4] iptunnels: advertise link netns via netlink Nicolas Dichtel
2014-10-02 13:48               ` [RFC PATCH net-next v3 4/4] rtnl: allow to create device with IFLA_LINK_NETNSID set Nicolas Dichtel
2014-10-30 15:25               ` [PATCH net-next v4 0/4] netns: allow to identify peer netns Nicolas Dichtel
2014-10-30 15:25                 ` [PATCH net-next v4 1/4] netns: add genl cmd to add and get peer netns ids Nicolas Dichtel
2014-10-30 18:35                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2014-10-31  9:41                     ` Nicolas Dichtel
2014-10-30 15:25                 ` [PATCH net-next v4 2/4] rtnl: add link netns id to interface messages Nicolas Dichtel
2014-10-30 15:25                 ` [PATCH net-next v4 3/4] iptunnels: advertise link netns via netlink Nicolas Dichtel
2014-10-30 15:25                 ` [PATCH net-next v4 4/4] rtnl: allow to create device with IFLA_LINK_NETNSID set Nicolas Dichtel
2014-10-30 18:41                 ` [PATCH net-next v4 0/4] netns: allow to identify peer netns Eric W. Biederman
2014-10-31  9:48                   ` Nicolas Dichtel
2014-10-31 19:14                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2014-11-05 14:23                       ` Nicolas Dichtel
2014-12-04 16:21                         ` Nicolas Dichtel
2015-01-15 14:11                       ` [PATCH net-next v5 " Nicolas Dichtel
2015-01-15 14:11                         ` [PATCH net-next v5 1/4] netns: add rtnl cmd to add and get peer netns ids Nicolas Dichtel
2015-01-15 14:11                         ` [PATCH net-next v5 2/4] rtnl: add link netns id to interface messages Nicolas Dichtel
2015-01-15 14:11                         ` [PATCH net-next v5 3/4] tunnels: advertise link netns via netlink Nicolas Dichtel
2015-01-15 14:11                         ` [PATCH net-next v5 4/4] rtnl: allow to create device with IFLA_LINK_NETNSID set Nicolas Dichtel
2015-01-19 19:16                         ` [PATCH net-next v5 0/4] netns: allow to identify peer netns David Miller
2014-11-01 21:08                   ` [PATCH net-next v4 " David Miller
2014-11-24 13:45                   ` Nicolas Dichtel
2014-10-02 19:20             ` [RFC PATCH net-next v2 0/5] " Eric W. Biederman
2014-10-02 19:31               ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-10-02 19:45                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2014-10-02 19:48                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-10-03 12:22               ` Nicolas Dichtel

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