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From: James Hogan <james.hogan@imgtec.com>
To: David Daney <david.s.daney@gmail.com>,
	"Kevin D. Kissell" <kevink@paralogos.com>,
	David Daney <ddaney.cavm@gmail.com>, <libc-alpha@sourceware.org>,
	Leonid <Leonid.Yegoshin@imgtec.com>
Cc: <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, <linux-mips@linux-mips.org>,
	David Daney <david.daney@cavium.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH resend] MIPS: Allow FPU emulator to use non-stack area.
Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2014 13:22:18 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5433DAFA.4010008@imgtec.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5433D429.3020804@imgtec.com>

On 07/10/14 12:53, James Hogan wrote:
> On 07/10/14 05:32, David Daney wrote:
>> If the kernel automatically allocated the emulation locations, what
>> would happen if there were a signal that interrupted the emulation, and
>> the signal handler did a longjump to somewhere else?  How would we clean
>> up the now unused emulation memory allocations?
> 
> AFAICT, Leonid's implementation also has this problem, and that has a
> separate stack of emuframes per thread managed completely by the kernel.
> 
> Essentially the kernel doesn't manage the stack, userland does, and
> userland can choose to skip over sigframes and emuframes with siglongjmp
> without telling the kernel.
> 
> Userland can even switch between contexts (which includes stack) with
> setcontext (coroutines etc) which breaks the assumption in Leonid's
> patches that emuframes will be completed in reverse order to them being
> started, again demonstrating that it is essentially userland that
> manages the stack.
> 
> I think any attempt by the kernel to keep track of user stacks (e.g. by
> storing a stack pointer along with the emuframe so that unused emuframes
> can be discarded later when stack pointer goes high again) will be
> foiled by setcontext.
> 
> Hmm, I can't see a way forward that doesn't involve invasive userland
> handling & ABI changes other than giving up with non-executable stacks
> or limiting permitted instructions in delay slots to those Linux knows
> how to emulate directly.

Would it work for a signal encountered during branch delay slot
emulation (maybe where the PC is pointing at that magic location the
kernel uses for emulation) to be treated as a return from emulation, but
leaving the user PC pointing to the original branch (with Cause.BD=1 I
suppose) prior to handling the signal, so that no more than one emuframe
is needed by each thread at a time?

Cheers
James

      reply	other threads:[~2014-10-07 12:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-10-06 20:23 [PATCH resend] MIPS: Allow FPU emulator to use non-stack area David Daney
2014-10-06 20:54 ` Rich Felker
2014-10-06 21:18   ` David Daney
2014-10-06 21:31     ` Rich Felker
2014-10-06 21:45       ` David Daney
2014-10-06 21:58         ` Rich Felker
2014-10-06 22:17           ` David Daney
2014-10-06 23:08             ` Rich Felker
2014-10-06 23:38           ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-10-06 23:48             ` David Daney
2014-10-06 23:54               ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-10-07  0:05               ` Rich Felker
2014-10-07  0:11                 ` Andrew Pinski
2014-10-07  0:21                   ` Rich Felker
2014-10-07  0:28                     ` Andrew Pinski
2014-10-07  0:29                       ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-10-07  0:32                         ` David Daney
2014-10-07  0:33                 ` David Daney
2014-10-07  0:48                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-10-07  0:49                   ` Rich Felker
2014-10-07  4:50                     ` David Daney
2014-10-07  9:13                       ` Matthew Fortune
2014-10-07 10:52                         ` James Hogan
2014-10-07 11:19                         ` Rich Felker
2014-10-07 16:04                         ` David Daney
2014-10-07 18:32                         ` Leonid Yegoshin
2014-10-07 18:43                           ` David Daney
2014-10-07 19:13                             ` Leonid Yegoshin
2014-10-07 18:44                           ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-10-07 18:50                             ` David Daney
2014-10-07 19:09                             ` Rich Felker
2014-10-07 19:16                               ` Leonid Yegoshin
2014-10-07 19:21                                 ` Rich Felker
2014-10-07 19:27                                   ` Leonid Yegoshin
2014-10-07 19:28                                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-10-07 20:03                                     ` David Daney
2014-10-08  0:22                                       ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-10-07 19:40                             ` Matthew Fortune
2014-10-07 11:11                       ` Rich Felker
2014-10-07 16:08                         ` David Daney
2014-10-07 18:16                           ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-10-07 23:20     ` Ralf Baechle
2014-10-07 23:59       ` David Daney
2014-10-08  0:18         ` Chuck Ebbert
2014-10-08  2:37           ` Rich Felker
2014-10-08 10:31         ` Paul Burton
2014-10-07  1:02 ` Kevin D. Kissell
2014-10-07  1:38   ` Rich Felker
2014-10-07  4:32   ` David Daney
2014-10-07 11:53     ` James Hogan
2014-10-07 12:22       ` James Hogan [this message]

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