From: David Daney <ddaney.cavm@gmail.com>
To: Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>
Cc: Rich Felker <dalias@libc.org>,
Leonid Yegoshin <Leonid.Yegoshin@imgtec.com>,
Matthew Fortune <Matthew.Fortune@imgtec.com>,
David Daney <david.s.daney@gmail.com>,
David Daney <ddaney.cavm@gmail.com>,
"libc-alpha@sourceware.org" <libc-alpha@sourceware.org>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"linux-mips@linux-mips.org" <linux-mips@linux-mips.org>,
David Daney <david.daney@cavium.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH resend] MIPS: Allow FPU emulator to use non-stack area.
Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2014 13:03:32 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <54344714.1000600@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALCETrU8qPL1qKGk7FqM=LCnoeSfuwDV_bG_a=5zcOKtWfkdGw@mail.gmail.com>
On 10/07/2014 12:28 PM, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 12:21 PM, Rich Felker <dalias@libc.org> wrote:
>> On Tue, Oct 07, 2014 at 12:16:59PM -0700, Leonid Yegoshin wrote:
>>> On 10/07/2014 12:09 PM, Rich Felker wrote:
>>>> I agree completely here. We should not break things (or, as it
>>>> seems, leave them broken) for common usage cases that affect
>>>> everyone just to coddle proprietary vendor-specific instructions.
>>>> The latter just should not be used in delay slots unless the chip
>>>> vendor also promises to provide fpu branch in hardware. Rich
>>> And what do you propose - remove a current in-stack emulation and
>>> you still think it doesn't break a status-quo?
>>
>> The in-stack trampoline support could be left but used only for
>> emulating instructions the kernel doesn't know. This would make all
>> normal binaries immediately usable with non-executable stack, and
>> would avoid the only potential source of regressions. Ultimately I
>> think the "xol" stuff should be removed, but that could be a long term
>> goal.
>
> Does anything break if the xol stuff is disabled for PT_GNU_STACK tasks?
>
The instructions must be executed, if you turn on a non-executable
stack, you cannot execute them on the stack, so they must be handled in
another way, which is the subject of this thread.
Options:
1a) XOL kernel manages the memory
1b) XOL userspace manages the menory
2) Emulate the instructions.
3) I don't think there is a 3rd. option.
As the imgtec people have said, you have to do #2 for their new r6 ISA,
as it uses PC relative instructions.
I really think we should bite the bullet and do #2 for everything, it
will be the cleanest long term solutions.
David Daney
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-10-07 20:03 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-10-06 20:23 [PATCH resend] MIPS: Allow FPU emulator to use non-stack area David Daney
2014-10-06 20:54 ` Rich Felker
2014-10-06 21:18 ` David Daney
2014-10-06 21:31 ` Rich Felker
2014-10-06 21:45 ` David Daney
2014-10-06 21:58 ` Rich Felker
2014-10-06 22:17 ` David Daney
2014-10-06 23:08 ` Rich Felker
2014-10-06 23:38 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-10-06 23:48 ` David Daney
2014-10-06 23:54 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-10-07 0:05 ` Rich Felker
2014-10-07 0:11 ` Andrew Pinski
2014-10-07 0:21 ` Rich Felker
2014-10-07 0:28 ` Andrew Pinski
2014-10-07 0:29 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-10-07 0:32 ` David Daney
2014-10-07 0:33 ` David Daney
2014-10-07 0:48 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-10-07 0:49 ` Rich Felker
2014-10-07 4:50 ` David Daney
2014-10-07 9:13 ` Matthew Fortune
2014-10-07 10:52 ` James Hogan
2014-10-07 11:19 ` Rich Felker
2014-10-07 16:04 ` David Daney
2014-10-07 18:32 ` Leonid Yegoshin
2014-10-07 18:43 ` David Daney
2014-10-07 19:13 ` Leonid Yegoshin
2014-10-07 18:44 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-10-07 18:50 ` David Daney
2014-10-07 19:09 ` Rich Felker
2014-10-07 19:16 ` Leonid Yegoshin
2014-10-07 19:21 ` Rich Felker
2014-10-07 19:27 ` Leonid Yegoshin
2014-10-07 19:28 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-10-07 20:03 ` David Daney [this message]
2014-10-08 0:22 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-10-07 19:40 ` Matthew Fortune
2014-10-07 11:11 ` Rich Felker
2014-10-07 16:08 ` David Daney
2014-10-07 18:16 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-10-07 23:20 ` Ralf Baechle
2014-10-07 23:59 ` David Daney
2014-10-08 0:18 ` Chuck Ebbert
2014-10-08 2:37 ` Rich Felker
2014-10-08 10:31 ` Paul Burton
2014-10-07 1:02 ` Kevin D. Kissell
2014-10-07 1:38 ` Rich Felker
2014-10-07 4:32 ` David Daney
2014-10-07 11:53 ` James Hogan
2014-10-07 12:22 ` James Hogan
Reply instructions:
You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:
* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
and reply-to-all from there: mbox
Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style
* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
switches of git-send-email(1):
git send-email \
--in-reply-to=54344714.1000600@gmail.com \
--to=ddaney.cavm@gmail.com \
--cc=Leonid.Yegoshin@imgtec.com \
--cc=Matthew.Fortune@imgtec.com \
--cc=dalias@libc.org \
--cc=david.daney@cavium.com \
--cc=david.s.daney@gmail.com \
--cc=libc-alpha@sourceware.org \
--cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
--cc=linux-mips@linux-mips.org \
--cc=luto@amacapital.net \
/path/to/YOUR_REPLY
https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html
* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line
before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox;
as well as URLs for NNTP newsgroup(s).