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From: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
To: Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com>
Cc: Baoquan He <bhe@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, tglx@linutronix.de,
	mingo@redhat.com, x86@kernel.org, keescook@chromium.org,
	ak@linux.intel.com, ebiederm@xmission.com,
	kexec@lists.infradead.org, whissi@whissi.de,
	kumagai-atsushi@mxc.nes.nec.co.jp, stable@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [resend Patch v3 1/2] kaslr: check if kernel location is changed
Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2014 08:09:59 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <543553C7.9010906@zytor.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20141001135237.GA13689@redhat.com>

On 10/01/2014 06:52 AM, Vivek Goyal wrote:
> 
> Hi Peter,
> 
> I think there is some confusion. I will try to clarify.
> 
> If we have 32bit signed overflow, we will not have a functional kernel.
> And that's the message we get when we try to kexec with
> CONFIG_RANDOMIZE_BASE=y.
> 

And how does that happen?

> **********************************************************************
> [  340.709078] kexec: Starting new kernel
> early console in decompress_kernel
> KASLR disabled by default...
> 
> Decompressing Linux... Parsing ELF...
> 
> Performing relocations...
> 32-bit relocation outside of kernel!
> 
> 
>  -- System halted
> *****************************************************************
> 
> We realized that kexec tries to load kernel at higher physical addresses
> and that can lead to problmes.
> 
> Currently for x86_64, handle_relocations() will perform relocations if
> kernel is not loaded at LOAD_PHYSICAL_ADDR. I think this does not work for
> all the cases and kerenl can not be loaded anywhere in the physical address
> space. And that's why we run into issues with kexec.
> 
> My understanding is that we introduce handle_relcoations() i386 style
> because of RANDOMIZE_BASE. If that's the case, one possible solution
> is that perform relocations only if ranodmize base logic has chosen
> a different load location for kernel than where boot loader loaded
> it. Otherwise don't do anything.
> 
> In case of kexec/kdump, we will pass "nokaslr" to second kernel forcing
> it to do nothing and let the kernel run where it was loaded by bootloader.
> And in that case handle_relocations() should not do any relocations and
> that should allow kernel to be loaded anywhere in physical memory on
> x86_64.
> 

Sorry... this makes no sense.

For x86-64, there is no direct connection between the physical and
virtual address spaces that the kernel runs in...

	-hpa



  reply	other threads:[~2014-10-08 15:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-09-30  7:08 [resend Patch v3 1/2] kaslr: check if kernel location is changed Baoquan He
2014-09-30  7:08 ` [resend Patch v3 2/2] export the kernel image size KERNEL_IMAGE_SIZE Baoquan He
2015-02-02  7:32   ` Baoquan He
2015-02-09 20:18     ` Kees Cook
2014-09-30 21:21 ` [resend Patch v3 1/2] kaslr: check if kernel location is changed H. Peter Anvin
2014-10-01 13:52   ` Vivek Goyal
2014-10-08 15:09     ` H. Peter Anvin [this message]
2014-10-08 19:27       ` Vivek Goyal
2014-10-11  3:14         ` Baoquan He
2014-10-11 10:34           ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-10-11 12:38             ` Baoquan He
2014-10-11 12:44               ` Baoquan He
2014-10-13 12:52             ` Vivek Goyal
2014-10-13 15:19               ` Vivek Goyal
2014-10-13 15:43                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-10-13 17:22                   ` Vivek Goyal
2014-10-14 12:49                     ` Vivek Goyal
2014-10-15  3:37                       ` Baoquan He
2014-10-15 20:22                         ` Vivek Goyal
2014-10-15 20:32                         ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-10-15 23:55                           ` Baoquan He
2014-10-15 23:58                             ` Baoquan He
2014-10-28  5:04                         ` Baoquan He
2014-10-08 14:40   ` Baoquan He
2015-01-09  2:09 ` Baoquan He

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