From: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
To: Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>
Cc: "xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org" <xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
kvm list <kvm@vger.kernel.org>, Gleb Natapov <gleb@kernel.org>,
Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC 2/2] x86, vdso, pvclock: Simplify and speed up the vdso pvclock reader
Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2015 06:38:23 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <54ACC64F.6030304@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALCETrWKgB7nj19zW_cQaa4RWjDojbN92_3+-27bHXbB-EEOnA@mail.gmail.com>
On 06/01/2015 17:56, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
> Still no good. We can migrate a bunch of times so we see the same CPU
> all three times
There are no three times. The CPU you see here:
>>
>>
>> // ... compute nanoseconds from pvti and tsc ...
>> rmb();
>> } while(v != pvti->version);
is the same you read here:
>> cpu = get_cpu();
The algorithm is:
1) get a consistent (cpu, version, tsc)
1.a) get cpu
1.b) get pvti[cpu]->version, ignoring low bit
1.c) get (tsc, cpu)
1.d) if cpu from 1.a and 1.c do not match, loop
1.e) if pvti[cpu] was being updated, we'll loop later
2) compute nanoseconds from pvti[cpu] and tsc
3) if pvti[cpu] changed under our feet during (2), i.e. version doesn't
match, retry.
As long as the CPU is consistent between get_cpu() and rdtscp(), there
is no problem with migration, because pvti is always accessed for that
one CPU. If there were any problem, it would be caught by the version
check. Writing it down with two nested do...whiles makes it clearer IMHO.
> and *still* don't get a consistent read, unless we
> play nasty games with lots of version checks (I have a patch for that,
> but I don't like it very much). The patch is here:
>
> https://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/luto/linux.git/commit/?h=x86/vdso_paranoia&id=a69754dc5ff33f5187162b5338854ad23dd7be8d
>
> but I don't like it.
>
> Thus far, I've been told unambiguously that a guest can't observe pvti
> while it's being written, and I think you're now telling me that this
> isn't true and that a guest *can* observe pvti while it's being
> written while the low bit of the version field is not set. If so,
> this is rather strongly incompatible with the spec in the KVM docs.
Where am I saying that?
Paolo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-01-07 5:38 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-12-23 0:39 [RFC 0/2] x86, vdso, pvclock: Cleanups and speedups Andy Lutomirski
2014-12-23 0:39 ` [RFC 1/2] x86, vdso: Use asm volatile in __getcpu Andy Lutomirski
2014-12-23 0:39 ` [RFC 2/2] x86, vdso, pvclock: Simplify and speed up the vdso pvclock reader Andy Lutomirski
2014-12-23 10:28 ` [Xen-devel] " David Vrabel
2014-12-23 15:14 ` Boris Ostrovsky
2014-12-23 15:14 ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-12-23 15:25 ` Boris Ostrovsky
2014-12-24 21:30 ` David Matlack
2014-12-24 21:43 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-01-05 15:25 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2015-01-05 18:56 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-01-05 19:17 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2015-01-05 22:38 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-01-05 22:48 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2015-01-05 22:53 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-01-06 8:42 ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-01-06 12:01 ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-01-06 16:56 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-01-06 18:13 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2015-01-06 18:26 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-01-06 18:45 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2015-01-06 19:49 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-01-06 20:20 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2015-01-06 21:54 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-01-08 22:31 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2015-01-08 22:43 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-02-26 22:46 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-01-07 5:41 ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-01-07 5:38 ` Paolo Bonzini [this message]
2015-01-07 7:18 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-01-07 9:00 ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-01-07 14:45 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2015-01-06 8:39 ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-01-05 22:23 ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-01-06 14:35 ` [Xen-devel] " Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2015-01-08 12:51 ` David Vrabel
2014-12-23 7:21 ` [RFC 0/2] x86, vdso, pvclock: Cleanups and speedups Paolo Bonzini
2014-12-23 8:16 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-12-23 8:30 ` Paolo Bonzini
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