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From: "Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)" <mtk.manpages@gmail.com>
To: Rich Felker <dalias@aerifal.cx>
Cc: mtk.manpages@gmail.com, David Drysdale <drysdale@google.com>,
	"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>,
	Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	Meredydd Luff <meredydd@senatehouse.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Stephen Rothwell <sfr@canb.auug.org.au>,
	Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>, Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	x86@kernel.org, linux-arch@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-api@vger.kernel.org, sparclinux@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCHv10 man-pages 5/5] execveat.2: initial man page for execveat(2)
Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2015 08:38:11 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <54B0D6E3.5030804@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150109161302.GQ4574@brightrain.aerifal.cx>

On 01/09/2015 05:13 PM, Rich Felker wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 09, 2015 at 04:47:31PM +0100, Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) wrote:
>> On 11/24/2014 12:53 PM, David Drysdale wrote:
>>> Signed-off-by: David Drysdale <drysdale@google.com>
>>> ---
>>>  man2/execveat.2 | 153 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>  1 file changed, 153 insertions(+)
>>>  create mode 100644 man2/execveat.2
>>
>> David,
>>
>> Thanks for the very nicely prepared man page. I've done 
>> a few very light edits, and will release the version below 
>> with the next man-pages release.
>>
>> I have one question. In the message accompanying
>> commit 51f39a1f0cea1cacf8c787f652f26dfee9611874 you wrote:
>>
>>   The filename fed to the executed program as argv[0] (or the name of the
>>   script fed to a script interpreter) will be of the form "/dev/fd/<fd>"
>>   (for an empty filename) or "/dev/fd/<fd>/<filename>", effectively
>>   reflecting how the executable was found.  This does however mean that
>>   execution of a script in a /proc-less environment won't work; also, script
>>   execution via an O_CLOEXEC file descriptor fails (as the file will not be
>>   accessible after exec).
>>
>> How does one produce this situation where the execed program sees 
>> argv[0] as a /dev/fd path? (i.e., what would the execveat()
>> call look like?) I tried to produce this scenario, but could not.
> 
> I think this is wrong. argv[0] is an arbitrary string provided by the
> caller and would never be derived from the fd passed. It's AT_EXECFN,
> /proc/self/exe, and filenames shown elsewhere in /proc that may be
> derived in odd ways.
> 
> I would also move the text about O_CLOEXEC to a BUGS or NOTES section
> rather than the main description. The long-term intent should be that
> script execution this way should work. IIRC this was discussed earlier
> in the thread.

I agree, that something needs to be said. What I instead did was 
added "See BUGS" to the ENOEXEC error, and then this text:

   BUGS
       The  ENOENT  error  described above means that it is not possible
       possible to set the close-on-exec flag  on  the  file  descriptor
       given to a call of the form:

           execveat(fd, "", argv, envp, AT_EMPTY_PATH);

       However, the inability to set the close-on-exec flag means that a
       file descriptor referring to the  script  leaks  through  to  the
       script  itself.  As well as wasting a file descriptor, this leak‐
       age can lead to file-descriptor  exhaustion  in  scenarios  where
       scripts  recursively  employ  exceveat()  (or a future fexecve(3)
       implementation that might be based on execveat()).

Okay?

Thanks,

Michael



-- 
Michael Kerrisk
Linux man-pages maintainer; http://www.kernel.org/doc/man-pages/
Linux/UNIX System Programming Training: http://man7.org/training/

  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-01-10  7:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-11-24 11:53 [PATCHv10 0/5] syscalls,x86,sparc: Add execveat() system call David Drysdale
2014-11-24 11:53 ` [PATCHv10 1/5] syscalls: implement " David Drysdale
2014-11-24 11:53 ` [PATCHv10 2/5] x86: Hook up execveat " David Drysdale
2014-11-24 12:45   ` Thomas Gleixner
2014-11-24 17:06   ` Dan Carpenter
2014-11-24 18:26     ` David Drysdale
2014-11-25 12:16       ` Dan Carpenter
2014-11-24 18:53     ` Thomas Gleixner
2014-11-24 11:53 ` [PATCHv10 3/5] syscalls: add selftest for execveat(2) David Drysdale
2014-11-24 11:53 ` [PATCHv10 4/5] sparc: Hook up execveat system call David Drysdale
2014-11-24 18:36   ` David Miller
2014-11-24 11:53 ` [PATCHv10 man-pages 5/5] execveat.2: initial man page for execveat(2) David Drysdale
2015-01-09 15:47   ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2015-01-09 16:13     ` Rich Felker
2015-01-09 17:46       ` David Drysdale
2015-01-09 20:48         ` Rich Felker
2015-01-09 20:56           ` Al Viro
2015-01-09 20:59             ` Rich Felker
2015-01-09 21:09               ` Al Viro
2015-01-09 21:28                 ` Rich Felker
2015-01-09 21:50                   ` Al Viro
2015-01-09 22:17                     ` Rich Felker
2015-01-09 22:33                       ` Al Viro
2015-01-09 22:42                         ` Rich Felker
2015-01-09 22:57                           ` Al Viro
2015-01-09 23:12                             ` Rich Felker
2015-01-09 23:24                               ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-01-09 23:37                                 ` Rich Felker
2015-01-10  0:01                                 ` Al Viro
2015-01-09 23:36                               ` Al Viro
2015-01-10  3:03                                 ` Al Viro
2015-01-10  3:41                                   ` Rich Felker
2015-01-10  4:14                                     ` Al Viro
2015-01-10  5:57                                       ` Rich Felker
2015-01-10 22:27                                         ` Eric W. Biederman
2015-01-11  1:15                                           ` Rich Felker
2015-01-11  2:09                                             ` Eric W. Biederman
2015-01-11 11:02                                               ` Christoph Hellwig
2015-01-12 14:18                     ` David Drysdale
2015-01-09 22:13                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2015-01-09 22:38                     ` Rich Felker
2015-01-10  1:17                       ` Eric W. Biederman
2015-01-10  1:33                         ` Rich Felker
2015-01-12 11:33                           ` David Drysdale
2015-01-12 16:07                             ` Rich Felker
2015-01-10  7:13                     ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2015-01-09 21:20               ` Eric W. Biederman
2015-01-09 21:31                 ` Rich Felker
2015-01-10  7:43         ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2015-01-10  8:27         ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2015-01-10 13:31           ` Rich Felker
2015-01-10  7:38       ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) [this message]
2015-01-09 18:02     ` David Drysdale
2015-01-10  7:56       ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)

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