From: Boris Ostrovsky <boris.ostrovsky@oracle.com>
To: David Vrabel <david.vrabel@citrix.com>,
Imre Palik <imrep.amz@gmail.com>,
xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org
Cc: "Palik, Imre" <imrep@amazon.de>,
x86@kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
Anthony Liguori <aliguori@amazon.com>,
"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Subject: Re: [Xen-devel] [PATCH] xen-time: decreasing the rating of the xen clocksource below that of the tsc clocksource for dom0's
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2015 09:21:18 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <54B67B5E.9030002@oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <54B548DA.60402@oracle.com>
On 01/13/2015 11:33 AM, Boris Ostrovsky wrote:
> On 01/13/2015 11:17 AM, Boris Ostrovsky wrote:
>> On 01/13/2015 11:07 AM, David Vrabel wrote:
>>> On 13/01/15 15:42, Boris Ostrovsky wrote:
>>>> On 01/13/2015 04:52 AM, David Vrabel wrote:
>>>>> On 13/01/15 08:14, Imre Palik wrote:
>>>>>> From: "Palik, Imre" <imrep@amazon.de>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In Dom0's the use of the TSC clocksource (whenever it is stable
>>>>>> enough to
>>>>>> be used) instead of the Xen clocksource should not cause any
>>>>>> issues, as
>>>>>> Dom0 VMs never live-migrated. The TSC clocksource is somewhat more
>>>>>> efficient than the Xen paravirtualised clocksource, thus it
>>>>>> should have
>>>>>> higher rating.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This patch decreases the rating of the Xen clocksource in Dom0s
>>>>>> to 275.
>>>>>> Which is half-way between the rating of the TSC clocksource (300)
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> hpet clocksource (250).
>>>>> I'm happy with this but would like to see acks from those who
>>>>> objected
>>>>> to v1.
>>>>>
>>>>> David
>>>>>
>>>>>> --- a/arch/x86/xen/time.c
>>>>>> +++ b/arch/x86/xen/time.c
>>>>>> @@ -487,6 +487,10 @@ static void __init xen_time_init(void)
>>>>>> int cpu = smp_processor_id();
>>>>>> struct timespec tp;
>>>>>> + /* As Dom0 is never moved, no penalty on using TSC there */
>>>> Again, why not any PV guest with TSC_MODE_NEVER_EMULATE?
>>> Surely if TSC_MODE_NEVER_EMULATE is set then the TSC is /not/ stable
>>> across a guest save/restore thus the PV clocksource must be used?
>>
>> TSC is declared stable when !d->disable_migrate && !d->arch.vtsc,
>> with vtsc being 0 with TSC_MODE_NEVER_EMULATE (per domain_cpuid()).
>
> I think I inverted domain_cpuid's logic here but my point was that we
> use'd use combination of TSC_MODE_NEVER_EMULATE and CPUID flag
> indicating TSC stability to pick the clocksource.
>
>
> -boris
>
>>
>> And if TSC is not stable as seen by CPUID (which would be the case if
>> disable_migrate is not set) then kernel won't use TSC as clocksource
>> anyway, regardless of rating value, won't it?
So this is not going to work because early_init_intel() may set
X86_FEATURE_CONSTANT_TSC unconditionally, without consulting CPUID.
Imre, you can ignore my question about non-dom0 guests then.
-boris
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-01-14 14:21 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-01-13 8:14 [PATCH] xen-time: decreasing the rating of the xen clocksource below that of the tsc clocksource for dom0's Imre Palik
2015-01-13 9:52 ` [Xen-devel] " David Vrabel
2015-01-13 15:42 ` Boris Ostrovsky
2015-01-13 16:07 ` David Vrabel
2015-01-13 16:17 ` Boris Ostrovsky
2015-01-13 16:33 ` Boris Ostrovsky
2015-01-14 14:21 ` Boris Ostrovsky [this message]
2015-01-20 19:21 ` David Vrabel
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