From: Richard Weinberger <richard@nod.at>
To: paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com,
Richard Weinberger <richard.weinberger@gmail.com>
Cc: Josh Triplett <josh@joshtriplett.org>,
Casey Schaufler <casey@schaufler-ca.com>,
Iulia Manda <iulia.manda21@gmail.com>,
One Thousand Gnomes <gnomes@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
Serge Hallyn <serge.hallyn@canonical.com>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.cz>,
LSM <linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] kernel: Conditionally support non-root users, groups and capabilities
Date: Sun, 01 Feb 2015 00:33:23 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <54CD6643.2060504@nod.at> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150131233021.GZ19109@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Am 01.02.2015 um 00:30 schrieb Paul E. McKenney:
> On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 10:56:14PM +0100, Richard Weinberger wrote:
>> On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 10:40 PM, Josh Triplett <josh@joshtriplett.org> wrote:
>>> *Today*, Linux is a challenging choice for a tiny embedded system.
>>> We're trying to fix that.
>>
>> Can you please more specific about the embedded systems exactly you're
>> talking about?
>>
>> I find this patch rather controversial as it removes a lot of security.
>> Embedded systems *are* a target for all kind of attacks.
>> Misguided embedded engineers will abuse this feature and produce even more
>> weak targets.
>
> Without this patch, those same engineers would simply run everything as
> root. "Make a foolproof system, and they will invent a better fool". ;-)
Luckily many services will run as non-root by default and some even refuse to
run as root. :-)
Thanks,
//richard
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-01-31 23:33 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-01-29 18:43 [PATCH v2] kernel: Conditionally support non-root users, groups and capabilities Iulia Manda
2015-01-29 18:59 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2015-01-29 20:01 ` josh
2015-01-29 20:16 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2015-01-29 23:44 ` Casey Schaufler
2015-01-30 0:32 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-01-30 1:25 ` Casey Schaufler
2015-01-30 1:36 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-01-30 2:25 ` Casey Schaufler
2015-01-30 7:07 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-01-30 19:13 ` josh
2015-01-30 19:48 ` Casey Schaufler
2015-01-30 20:20 ` Austin S Hemmelgarn
2015-01-30 21:40 ` Josh Triplett
2015-01-30 21:56 ` Richard Weinberger
2015-01-31 23:30 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-01-31 23:33 ` Richard Weinberger [this message]
2015-02-01 19:45 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-01-31 17:00 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2015-01-30 0:43 ` josh
2015-01-30 2:05 ` Casey Schaufler
2015-01-30 21:04 ` Josh Triplett
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