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From: Jacek Anaszewski <j.anaszewski@samsung.com>
To: Sakari Ailus <sakari.ailus@linux.intel.com>
Cc: Hans Verkuil <hansverk@cisco.com>,
	Ricardo Ribalda Delgado <ricardo.ribalda@gmail.com>,
	Hans Verkuil <hans.verkuil@cisco.com>,
	Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@osg.samsung.com>,
	Sylwester Nawrocki <s.nawrocki@samsung.com>,
	Antti Palosaari <crope@iki.fi>,
	linux-media@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] media/v4l2-ctrls: Always run s_ctrl on volatile ctrls
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 15:22:13 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <54E34E95.7070001@samsung.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <54E34AE9.90505@linux.intel.com>

On 02/17/2015 03:06 PM, Sakari Ailus wrote:
> Hi Jacek,
>
> Jacek Anaszewski wrote:
>> Hi Hans, Sakari,
>>
>> On 02/17/2015 12:32 PM, Sakari Ailus wrote:
>>> Hi Hans,
>>>
>>> Hans Verkuil wrote:
>>> ...
>>>>> Unfortunately, it only works one time, because the next time the
>>>>> user writes
>>>>> a zero to the control cluster_changed returns false.
>>>>>
>>>>> I think on volatile controls it is safer to run s_ctrl twice than
>>>>> missing a
>>>>> valid s_ctrl.
>>>>>
>>>>> I know I am abusing a bit the API for this :P, but I also believe
>>>>> that the
>>>>> semantic here is a bit confusing.
>>>>
>>>> The reason for that is that I have yet to see a convincing argument for
>>>> allowing s_ctrl for a volatile control.
>>>
>>> Well, one example are LED flash class devices which implement V4L2 flash
>>> API through a wrapper. The user may use the LED flash class API to
>>> change the values of the controls, and V4L2 framework has no clue about
>>> this. The V4L2 controls are volatile, and the real values of the
>>> settings are stored in the LED flash class.
>>>
>>> This is the current implementation (not merged yet); an alternative, a
>>> more correct one, would be to use callbacks to tell about the changes in
>>> control values. I haven't pushed for that, primarily because the
>>> patchset is already quite complex and I've seen this as something that
>>> can be always implemented later if it bothers someone.
>>>
>>> Cc Jacek.
>>>
>>
>> Actually this will be not an issue for v4l2-flash sub-device anymore.
>> In the next version of the patch set the v4l2-flash sub-device
>> will be synchronizing the flash device registers with the
>> state of the controls on open.
>
> Ah, right --- you're preventing the use of the LED flash class whilst
> the V4L2 sub-device is opened?

Yes.

> I'm not fully certain whether that'd be
> really useful, as the V4L2 sub-device can also be opened by multiple
> users at the same time.

We also prevent from this using v4l2_fh_is_singular on open.

> However the applications that would access the
> LED class API are mostly different ones and for different purposes; I
> don't really have a strong opinion either way here.


-- 
Best Regards,
Jacek Anaszewski

  reply	other threads:[~2015-02-17 14:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-02-17 11:02 [PATCH] media/v4l2-ctrls: Always run s_ctrl on volatile ctrls Ricardo Ribalda Delgado
2015-02-17 11:17 ` Hans Verkuil
2015-02-17 11:29   ` Ricardo Ribalda Delgado
2015-02-17 11:32   ` Sakari Ailus
2015-02-17 13:53     ` Jacek Anaszewski
2015-02-17 14:06       ` Sakari Ailus
2015-02-17 14:22         ` Jacek Anaszewski [this message]
2015-02-17 14:35           ` Sakari Ailus
2015-02-17 15:14             ` Jacek Anaszewski
2015-02-17 12:03 ` Hans Verkuil
2015-02-17 12:21   ` Ricardo Ribalda Delgado
2015-02-17 12:23     ` Hans Verkuil

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