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From: Denys Vlasenko <dvlasenk@redhat.com>
To: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
Cc: Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>, Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>, Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>,
	Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
	Alexei Starovoitov <ast@plumgrid.com>,
	Will Drewry <wad@chromium.org>, Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
	x86@kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/4] x86: get rid of KERNEL_STACK_OFFSET
Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2015 21:02:26 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <54ECD8D2.9080301@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150224143004.7bbc8cf2@gandalf.local.home>

On 02/24/2015 08:30 PM, Steven Rostedt wrote:
> On Tue, 24 Feb 2015 19:51:33 +0100
> Denys Vlasenko <dvlasenk@redhat.com> wrote:
> 
>> PER_CPU_VAR(kernel_stack) was set up in a way where it points
>> five stack slots below the top of stack.
>>
>> Presumably, it was done to avoid one "sub $5*8,%rsp"
>> in syscall/sysenter code paths, where iret frame needs to be
>> created by hand.
>>
>> Ironically, none of them benefit from this optimization,
>> since all of them need to allocate additional data on stack
>> (struct pt_regs), so they still have to perform subtraction.
>> And ia32_sysenter_target even needs to *undo* this optimization:
>> it constructs iret stack with pushes instead of movs,
>> so it needs to start right at the top.
>>
>> This patch eliminates KERNEL_STACK_OFFSET.
>> PER_CPU_VAR(kernel_stack) now points directly to top of stack.
>> pt_regs allocations are adjusted to allocate iret frame as well.
>>
> 
> I always thought the KERNEL_STACK_OFFSET wasn't an optimization, but a
> buffer from the real top of stack, in case we had any off by one bugs,
> it wouldn't crash the system.

I was thinking about it, but it looks unlikely. Reasons:

(1) ia32_sysenter_target does "addq $(KERNEL_STACK_OFFSET),%rsp"
on entry before saving registers with PUSHes,
this returns %rsp to the very top of kernel stack.
If that is a problem (say, a NMI at this point would do bad things),
it would be noticed by now.

(2) even ordinary 64-bit syscall path uses IRET return at times.
For one, on every execve and signal return (because they need
to load a modified %rsp). With current layout, return frame
for IRET lies exactly there, in those 5 stack slots "reserved"
via KERNEL_STACK_OFFSET thingy.

(3) There are no comments anywhere about KERNEL_STACK_OFFSET being
a safety measure.


  reply	other threads:[~2015-02-24 20:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-02-24 18:51 [PATCH 1/4] x86: entry.S: tidy up several suboptimal insns Denys Vlasenko
2015-02-24 18:51 ` [PATCH 2/4] x86: get rid of KERNEL_STACK_OFFSET Denys Vlasenko
2015-02-24 19:30   ` Steven Rostedt
2015-02-24 20:02     ` Denys Vlasenko [this message]
2015-02-24 22:37   ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-02-25  9:45     ` Ingo Molnar
2015-02-25 16:14       ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-02-26 11:42         ` Ingo Molnar
2015-02-26 15:21           ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-02-26 15:29             ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-02-25  8:53   ` Ingo Molnar
2015-02-25 12:48     ` Denys Vlasenko
2015-02-25 13:25       ` Denys Vlasenko
2015-02-25 13:53         ` Ingo Molnar
2015-02-24 18:51 ` [PATCH 3/4] x86: save r11 into pt_regs->eflags on SYSCALL64 fastpath Denys Vlasenko
2015-02-24 22:44   ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-02-24 18:51 ` [PATCH 4/4] x86: save user %rsp in pt_regs->sp Denys Vlasenko
2015-02-24 22:55   ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-02-24 19:58 ` [PATCH 1/4] x86: entry.S: tidy up several suboptimal insns Borislav Petkov
2015-02-24 20:13   ` Denys Vlasenko
2015-02-24 20:36     ` Borislav Petkov
2015-02-24 22:51       ` H. Peter Anvin
2015-02-24 22:25 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-02-24 22:52   ` H. Peter Anvin
2015-02-24 22:56     ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-02-24 23:01       ` H. Peter Anvin
2015-02-24 23:03         ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-02-24 23:26           ` Denys Vlasenko
2015-02-25  9:20     ` Ingo Molnar
2015-02-25  9:27       ` H. Peter Anvin
2015-02-25  9:39         ` Ingo Molnar
2015-02-25 14:43       ` Steven Rostedt
2015-02-25 15:40         ` Denys Vlasenko
2015-02-25 16:01           ` Steven Rostedt
2015-02-25 16:06             ` Borislav Petkov
2015-02-26 11:47             ` Ingo Molnar
2015-02-26 12:47               ` Steven Rostedt
2015-02-26 12:50               ` Steven Rostedt

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