From: Daniel Wagner <daniel.wagner@bmw-carit.de>
To: Jeff Layton <jlayton@poochiereds.net>
Cc: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>, <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, John Kacur <jkacur@redhat.com>,
Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
"J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@fieldses.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC v1 0/5] fs/locks: Use plain percpu spinlocks instead of lglock to protect file_lock
Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2015 16:01:30 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <54F086CA.5060606@bmw-carit.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150224160643.1d3366d5@tlielax.poochiereds.net>
Sorry for the late response. Got dragged away.
On 02/24/2015 10:06 PM, Jeff Layton wrote:
> On Tue, 24 Feb 2015 16:58:26 +0100
> Daniel Wagner <daniel.wagner@bmw-carit.de> wrote:
>
>> On 02/20/2015 05:05 PM, Andi Kleen wrote:
>>> Daniel Wagner <daniel.wagner@bmw-carit.de> writes:
>>>>
>>>> I am looking at how to get rid of lglock. Reason being -rt is not too
>>>> happy with that lock, especially that it uses arch_spinlock_t and
>>>
>>> AFAIK it could just use normal spinlock. Have you tried that?
>>
>> I have tried it. At least fs/locks.c didn't blow up. The benchmark
>> results (lockperf) indicated that using normal spinlocks is even
>> slightly faster. Simply converting felt like cheating. It might be
>> necessary for the other user (kernel/stop_machine.c). Currently it looks
>> like there is some additional benefit getting lglock away in fs/locks.c.
>>
>
> What would that benefit be?
>
> lglocks are basically percpu spinlocks. Fixing some underlying
> infrastructure that provides that seems like it might be a better
> approach than declaring them "manually" and avoiding them altogether.
>
> Note that you can still do basically what you're proposing here with
> lglocks as well. Avoid using lg_global_* and just lock each one in
> turn.
Yes, that was I was referring to as benefit. My main point is that there
are only lg_local_* calls we could as well use normal spinlocks. No need
to fancy.
> That said, now that I've thought about this, I'm not sure that's really
> something we want to do when accessing /proc/locks. If you lock each
> one in turn, then you aren't freezing the state of the file_lock_list
> percpu lists. Won't that mean that you aren't necessarily getting a
> consistent view of the locks on those lists when you cat /proc/locks?
Maybe I am overlooking something here but I don't see a consistency
problem. We list a blocker and all its waiter in a go since only the
blocker is added to flock_lock_list and the waiters are added blocker's
fl_block list.
> I think having a consistent view there might trump any benefit to
> performance. Reading /proc/locks is a *very* rare activity in the big
> scheme of things.
I agree, but I hope that I got it right with my consistency argument
than there shouldn't be a problem.
> I do however like the idea of moving more to be protected by the
> lglocks, and minimizing usage of the blocked_lock_lock.
Good to hear. I am trying to write a new test (a variation of the
dinning philosophers 'problem') case which benchmarks blocked_lock_lock
after the re-factoring.
cheers,
daniel
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-02-27 15:01 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-02-20 14:39 [RFC v1 0/5] fs/locks: Use plain percpu spinlocks instead of lglock to protect file_lock Daniel Wagner
2015-02-20 14:39 ` [RFC v1 1/5] locks: Remove unnecessary IS_POSIX test Daniel Wagner
2015-02-20 14:39 ` [RFC v1 2/5] locks: Split insert/delete block functions into flock/posix parts Daniel Wagner
2015-02-20 14:39 ` [RFC v1 3/5] seq_file: Add percpu seq_hlist helpers with locking iterators Daniel Wagner
2015-02-20 14:39 ` [RFC v1 4/5] locks: Use percpu spinlocks to protect file_lock_list Daniel Wagner
2015-02-20 14:39 ` [RFC v1 5/5] locks: Use blocked_lock_lock only to protect blocked_hash Daniel Wagner
2015-02-20 16:05 ` [RFC v1 0/5] fs/locks: Use plain percpu spinlocks instead of lglock to protect file_lock Andi Kleen
2015-02-24 15:58 ` Daniel Wagner
2015-02-24 21:06 ` Jeff Layton
2015-02-27 15:01 ` Daniel Wagner [this message]
2015-02-27 15:30 ` Jeff Layton
2015-03-02 12:58 ` Daniel Wagner
2015-03-03 0:29 ` Jeff Layton
2015-03-04 14:03 ` Daniel Wagner
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