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From: Austin S Hemmelgarn <ahferroin7@gmail.com>
To: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>, Tim Hockin <thockin@hockin.org>
Cc: Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
	lizefan@huawei.com, richard@nod.at, mingo@redhat.com,
	Aleksa Sarai <cyphar@cyphar.com>,
	cgroups@vger.kernel.org, peterz@infradead.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 0/2] add nproc cgroup subsystem
Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2015 08:13:23 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <54F461F3.3030903@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150228164353.GR3964@htj.duckdns.org>

On 2015-02-28 11:43, Tejun Heo wrote:
> Hello, Tim.
>
> On Sat, Feb 28, 2015 at 08:38:07AM -0800, Tim Hockin wrote:
>> I know there is not much concern for legacy-system problems, but it is
>> worth adding this case - there are systems that limit PIDs for other
>> reasons, eg broken infrastructure that assumes PIDs fit in a short int,
>> hypothetically.  Given such a system, PIDs become precious and limiting
>> them per job is important.
>>
>> My main point being that there are less obvious considerations in play than
>> just memory usage.
>
> Sure, there are those cases but it'd be unwise to hinge long term
> decisions on them.  It's hard to even argue 16bit pid in legacy code
> as a significant contributing factor at this point.  At any rate, it
> seems that pid is a global resource which needs to be provisioned for
> reasonable isolation which is a good reason to consider controlling it
> via cgroups.
If 16-bit PID's aren't a concern anymore, then why do we still default 
to treating it like a 16-bit signed int (the default for 
/proc/sys/kernel/pid_max is 32768)?


  reply	other threads:[~2015-03-02 13:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-02-23  3:08 [PATCH RFC 0/2] add nproc cgroup subsystem Aleksa Sarai
2015-02-23  3:08 ` [PATCH RFC 1/2] cgroups: allow a cgroup subsystem to reject a fork Aleksa Sarai
2015-02-23 14:49   ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-02-23  3:08 ` [PATCH RFC 2/2] cgroups: add an nproc subsystem Aleksa Sarai
2015-02-27  4:17 ` [RFC PATCH v2 0/2] add nproc cgroup subsystem Aleksa Sarai
2015-02-27  4:17   ` [PATCH v2 1/2] cgroups: allow a cgroup subsystem to reject a fork Aleksa Sarai
2015-03-09  3:06     ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]       ` <CAOviyaip7Faz98YWzGoTaXGYVb72sfD+ZL4Xa89reU9+=43jFA@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]         ` <20150309065902.GP13283@htj.duckdns.org>
2015-03-10  8:19           ` Aleksa Sarai
2015-03-10 12:47             ` Tejun Heo
2015-03-10 14:51               ` Aleksa Sarai
2015-03-10 15:17                 ` Tejun Heo
2015-03-11  5:16                   ` Aleksa Sarai
2015-03-11 11:46                     ` Tejun Heo
2015-03-11 23:47           ` Aleksa Sarai
2015-03-12  1:25             ` Tejun Heo
2015-02-27  4:17   ` [PATCH v2 2/2] cgroups: add an nproc subsystem Aleksa Sarai
2015-03-02 15:22     ` Tejun Heo
2015-03-09  1:49       ` Zefan Li
2015-03-09  2:34         ` Tejun Heo
2015-02-27 11:49 ` [PATCH RFC 0/2] add nproc cgroup subsystem Tejun Heo
2015-02-27 13:46   ` Richard Weinberger
2015-02-27 13:52     ` Tejun Heo
2015-02-27 16:42   ` Austin S Hemmelgarn
2015-02-27 17:06     ` Tejun Heo
2015-02-27 17:25       ` Tim Hockin
2015-02-27 17:45         ` Tejun Heo
2015-02-27 17:56           ` Tejun Heo
2015-02-27 21:45           ` Tim Hockin
2015-02-27 21:49             ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]               ` <CAAAKZwsCc8BtFx58KMFpRTohU81oCBeGVOPGMJrjJt9q5upKfQ@mail.gmail.com>
2015-02-28 16:57                 ` Tejun Heo
2015-02-28 22:26                   ` Tim Hockin
2015-02-28 22:50                     ` Tejun Heo
2015-03-01  4:46                       ` Tim Hockin
2015-02-28 23:11                     ` Johannes Weiner
2015-02-27 18:49       ` Austin S Hemmelgarn
2015-02-27 19:35         ` Tejun Heo
2015-02-28  9:26         ` Aleksa Sarai
2015-02-28 11:59           ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]             ` <CAAAKZws45c3PhFQMGrm_K+OZV+KOyGV9sXTakHcTfNP1kHxzOQ@mail.gmail.com>
2015-02-28 16:43               ` Tejun Heo
2015-03-02 13:13                 ` Austin S Hemmelgarn [this message]
2015-03-02 13:31                   ` Aleksa Sarai
2015-03-02 13:54                     ` Tejun Heo
2015-03-02 13:49                   ` Tejun Heo
2015-02-27 17:12     ` Tim Hockin
2015-02-27 17:15       ` Tejun Heo
2015-03-04 20:23 ` [PATCH v3 0/2] cgroup: add pids subsystem Aleksa Sarai
2015-03-04 20:23   ` [PATCH v3 1/2] cgroups: allow a cgroup subsystem to reject a fork Aleksa Sarai
2015-03-04 20:23   ` [PATCH v3 2/2] cgroups: add a pids subsystem Aleksa Sarai
2015-03-05  8:39     ` Aleksa Sarai
2015-03-05 14:37     ` Marian Marinov
2015-03-06  1:45 ` [PATCH v4 0/2] cgroup: add " Aleksa Sarai
2015-03-06  1:45   ` [PATCH v4 1/2] cgroups: allow a cgroup subsystem to reject a fork Aleksa Sarai
2015-03-06  1:45   ` [PATCH v4 2/2] cgroups: add a pids subsystem Aleksa Sarai
2015-03-09  3:34     ` Tejun Heo
2015-03-09  3:39       ` Tejun Heo
2015-03-09 18:58       ` Austin S Hemmelgarn
2015-03-09 19:51         ` Tejun Heo
2015-03-10  8:10         ` Aleksa Sarai
2015-03-10 11:32           ` Austin S Hemmelgarn
2015-03-10 12:31             ` Aleksa Sarai
2015-03-11 15:13               ` Austin S Hemmelgarn
2015-03-12  2:28                 ` Aleksa Sarai
2015-03-12 15:35                   ` Austin S Hemmelgarn
2015-03-12  3:47                 ` Tejun Heo
2015-03-09  3:08   ` [PATCH v4 0/2] cgroup: add " Tejun Heo

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