From: Michel Machado <michel@digirati.com.br>
To: Daniel Borkmann <daniel@iogearbox.net>, netdev@vger.kernel.org
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Linux XIA - merge proposal
Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2015 19:31:58 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <54F6527E.6080406@digirati.com.br> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <54F64B75.3010109@iogearbox.net>
Hi Daniel,
>> We're fine with clearly marking Linux XIA as being under staging
>> as well as helping to define this review process for network stacks.
>
> With regard to staging, the code there is usually horrible and I'm
> not sure anyone really looks there, that would mitigate the review
> problem to the time when you try to get it out from there, so I'm
> not sure it brings anything. ;)
I suggested staging as a way to incrementally review the code. XIA
is very modular, each component is a kernel module. So one can review a
kernel module at a time. My intention is to lower the review burden as
much as I can. I'm open to suggestions to work this out.
> +1 on what Eric said, would have also been nice if you had clearly
> described in your mail (w/o buzz words) what it is and what it does.
XIA is not an incremental design over IP, and a reasonable
explanation would've made my e-mail exceeding large. Our wiki has a lot
content explaining the design as well as demoing it, and I can answer
questions here, or through another communication medium that you guys
feel comfortable.
> Are you trying to introduce a new network stack as an alternative
> to the current one, e.g. something like FreeBSD's netgraph?
I'm trying to introduce a new network stack that enables one to
implement network designs that are incompatible with IP for a reason or
another. On top of that, these designs, once ported to Linux XIA, could
be combined to work together as we tried to highlight in the following demo:
https://github.com/AltraMayor/XIA-for-Linux/wiki/An-exemplifying-demo
There're a good number of designs in the literature that hasn't seen
the sun light because they are hard to experiment with since they are
not compatible with IP. Our hope is to bring these designs to life and
have a true evaluation of them. That is, we hope that Linux XIA will
enable the community at large to crowdsource the future Internet. We
work this vision out in this technical report:
http://www.cs.bu.edu/techreports/pdf/2015-001-linux-xia.pdf
[ ]'s
Michel Machado
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-03-04 0:32 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-03-03 17:29 Linux XIA - merge proposal Michel Machado
2015-03-03 23:33 ` Eric W. Biederman
2015-03-04 0:14 ` Michel Machado
2015-03-04 0:01 ` Daniel Borkmann
2015-03-04 0:31 ` Michel Machado [this message]
2015-03-04 5:49 ` Greg KH
2015-03-04 13:01 ` Michel Machado
2015-03-05 16:31 ` Alex Elsayed
2015-03-05 18:34 ` Michel Machado
2015-03-10 17:01 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2015-03-10 17:19 ` Eric Dumazet
2015-03-10 22:01 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2015-03-13 15:26 ` Michel Machado
2015-03-15 9:37 ` Greg KH
2015-03-15 10:03 ` Oded Gabbay
2015-03-17 12:37 ` Michel Machado
2015-03-17 12:25 ` Michel Machado
2015-03-18 10:27 ` Oded Gabbay
2015-03-20 18:46 ` Michel Machado
2015-03-20 19:41 ` Bjorn Helgaas
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