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From: Masami Hiramatsu <masami.hiramatsu.pt@hitachi.com>
To: Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com>
Cc: Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.cz>,
	Seth Jennings <sjenning@redhat.com>,
	Jiri Kosina <jkosina@suse.cz>, Vojtech Pavlik <vojtech@suse.cz>,
	live-patching@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>,
	Miroslav Benes <mbenes@suse.cz>,
	mingo@kernel.org, mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com,
	oleg@redhat.com, paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com, andi@firstfloor.org,
	rostedt@goodmis.org, tglx@linutronix.de
Subject: Re: Re: [PATCH 2/2] livepatch: fix patched module loading race
Date: Fri, 06 Mar 2015 10:24:27 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <54F901CB.7060601@hitachi.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150305141845.GB1870@treble.redhat.com>

(2015/03/05 23:18), Josh Poimboeuf wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 05, 2015 at 09:52:41AM +0900, Masami Hiramatsu wrote:
>> (2015/03/04 22:17), Petr Mladek wrote:
>>> On Tue 2015-03-03 17:02:22, Josh Poimboeuf wrote:
>>>> It's possible for klp_register_patch() to see a module before the COMING
>>>> notifier is called, or after the GOING notifier is called.
>>>>
>>>> That can cause all kinds of ugly races.  As Pter Mladek reported:
>>>>
>>>>   "The problem is that we do not keep the klp_mutex lock all the time when
>>>>   the module is being added or removed.
>>>>
>>>>   First, the module is visible even before ftrace is ready. If we enable a patch
>>>>   in this time frame, adding ftrace ops will fail and the patch will get rejected
>>>>   just because bad timing.
>>>
>>> Ah, this is not true after all. I did not properly check when
>>> MODULE_STATE_COMING was set. I though that it was before ftrace was
>>> initialized but it was not true.
>>>
>>>
>>>>   Second, if we are "lucky" and enable the patch for the coming module when the
>>>>   ftrace is ready but before the module notifier has been called. The notifier
>>>>   will try to enable the patch as well. It will detect that it is already patched,
>>>>   return error, and the module will get rejected just because bad
>>>>   timing. The more serious problem is that it will not call the notifier for
>>>>   going module, so that the mess will stay there and we wont be able to load
>>>>   the module later.
>>>
>>> Ah, the race is there but the effect is not that serious in the
>>> end. It seems that errors from module notifiers are ignored. In fact,
>>> we do not propagate the error from klp_module_notify_coming(). It means
>>> that WARN() from klp_enable_object() will be printed but the module
>>> will be loaded and patched.
>>>
>>> I am sorry, I was confused by kGraft where kgr_module_init() was
>>> called directly from module_load(). The errors were propagated. It
>>> means that kGraft rejects module when the patch cannot be applied.
>>>
>>> Note that the current solution is perfectly fine for the simple
>>> consistency model.
>>>
>>>
>>>>   Third, similar problems are there for going module. If a patch is enabled after
>>>>   the notifier finishes but before the module is removed from the list of modules,
>>>>   the new patch will be applied to the module. The module might disappear at
>>>>   anytime when the patch enabling is in progress, so there might be an access out
>>>>   of memory. Or the whole patch might be applied and some mess will be left,
>>>>   so it will not be possible to load/patch the module again."
>>>
>>> This is true.
>>
>> No, that's not true if you try_get_module() before patching. After the
>> module state goes GOING (more correctly say, after try_release_module_ref()
>> succeeded), all try_get_module() must fail :)
>> So, please make sure to get module when applying patches.
> 
> Hi Masami,
> 
> As Jikos pointed out elsewhere, try_get_module() won't solve all the
> GOING races.
> 
> The module can be in GOING before mod->exit() is called.  If we apply a
> patch between GOING getting set and mod->exit(), try_module_get() will
> fail and the module won't be patched.  But module code can still run
> before or during mod->exit(), so the unpatched module code might
> interact badly with new patched code elsewhere.

Hmm, in that case, we'd better have new GONE state for the module.
At least kprobe needs it.

Thank you,

-- 
Masami HIRAMATSU
Software Platform Research Dept. Linux Technology Research Center
Hitachi, Ltd., Yokohama Research Laboratory
E-mail: masami.hiramatsu.pt@hitachi.com



  reply	other threads:[~2015-03-06  1:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-03-03 11:38 [RFC PATCH] livepatch/module: Do not patch modules that are not ready Petr Mladek
2015-03-03 14:55 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2015-03-03 15:48   ` Petr Mladek
2015-03-03 16:01     ` Josh Poimboeuf
2015-03-03 17:34   ` Petr Mladek
2015-03-03 19:31     ` Josh Poimboeuf
2015-03-03 19:35       ` Josh Poimboeuf
2015-03-03 23:02       ` [PATCH 0/2] livepatch: fix patch module loading race Josh Poimboeuf
2015-03-03 23:02         ` [PATCH 1/2] livepatch: remove unnecessary call to klp_find_object_module() Josh Poimboeuf
2015-03-04  9:00           ` Petr Mladek
2015-03-04 21:48           ` Jiri Kosina
2015-03-03 23:02         ` [PATCH 2/2] livepatch: fix patched module loading race Josh Poimboeuf
2015-03-04 13:17           ` Petr Mladek
2015-03-04 14:18             ` Petr Mladek
2015-03-04 15:34             ` Josh Poimboeuf
2015-03-04 15:51               ` Jiri Kosina
2015-03-04 16:41                 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2015-03-04 16:36               ` Petr Mladek
2015-03-04 17:57                 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2015-03-04 22:02                   ` Jiri Kosina
2015-03-04 22:45                     ` Josh Poimboeuf
2015-03-05  0:52             ` Masami Hiramatsu
2015-03-05 14:18               ` Josh Poimboeuf
2015-03-06  1:24                 ` Masami Hiramatsu [this message]
2015-03-06 10:51                   ` Petr Mladek
2015-03-06 11:37                     ` Masami Hiramatsu
2015-03-06 13:05                       ` Petr Mladek
2015-03-06 14:43                       ` Josh Poimboeuf
2015-03-05 14:24               ` Petr Mladek

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