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From: "Martin J. Bligh" <mbligh@aracnet.com>
To: Erich Focht <efocht@ess.nec.de>
Cc: Michael Hohnbaum <hohnbaum@us.ibm.com>,
	mingo@redhat.com, habanero@us.ibm.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, lse-tech@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: NUMA scheduler  (was: 2.5 merge candidate list 1.5)
Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 10:32:38 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <550240000.1035829958@flay> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200210281811.47708.efocht@ess.nec.de>

>> Erich, what does all the pool stuff actually buy us over what
>> Michael is doing? Seems to be rather more complex, but maybe
>> it's useful for something we're just not measuring here?
> 
> The more complicated stuff is for achieving equal load between the
> nodes. It delays steals more when the stealing node is averagely loaded,
> less when it is unloaded. This is the place where we can make it cope
> with more complex machines with multiple levels of memory hierarchy
> (like our 32 CPU TX7). Equal load among the nodes is important if you
> have memory bandwidth eaters, as the bandwidth in a node is limited.
> 
> When introducing node affinity (which shows good results for me!) you
> also need a more careful ranking of the tasks which are candidates to
> be stolen. The routine task_to_steal does this and is another source
> of complexity. It is another point where the multilevel stuff comes in.
> In the core part of the patch the rank of the steal candidates is computed
> by only taking into account the time which a task has slept.

OK, it all sounds sane, just rather complicated ;-) I'm going to trawl
through your stuff with Michael, and see if we can simplify it a bit
somehow whilst not changing the functionality. Your first patch seems
to work just fine, it's just the complexity that bugs me a bit. 

The combination of your first patch with Michael's balance_exec stuff
actually seems to work pretty well ... I'll poke at the new patch you
sent me + Michael's exec balance + the little perf tweak I made to it,
and see what happens ;-)

> I attach the script for getting some statistics on the numa_test. I 
> consider this test more sensitive to NUMA effects, as it is a bandwidth
> eater also needing good latency.
> (BTW, Martin: in the numa_test script I've sent you the PROBLEMSIZE must
> be set to 1000000!).

It is ;-) I'm running 44-mm4, not virgin remember, so things like hot&cold 
page lists may make it faster?

M.


  reply	other threads:[~2002-10-28 18:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-10-23 21:26 Crunch time -- the musical. (2.5 merge candidate list 1.5) Rob Landley
2002-10-24 16:17 ` Michael Hohnbaum
     [not found]   ` <200210240750.09751.landley@trommello.org>
2002-10-24 19:01     ` Michael Hohnbaum
2002-10-24 21:51       ` Erich Focht
2002-10-24 22:38         ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-10-25  8:15           ` Erich Focht
2002-10-25 23:26             ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-10-25 23:45               ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-10-26  0:02               ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-10-26 18:58             ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-10-26 19:14             ` NUMA scheduler (was: 2.5 " Martin J. Bligh
2002-10-27 18:16               ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-10-28  0:32                 ` Erich Focht
2002-10-27 23:52                   ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-10-28  0:55                     ` [Lse-tech] " Michael Hohnbaum
2002-10-28  4:23                       ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-10-28  0:31                   ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-10-28 16:34                     ` Erich Focht
2002-10-28 16:57                       ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-10-28 17:26                         ` Erich Focht
2002-10-28 17:35                           ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-10-29  0:07                             ` [Lse-tech] " Erich Focht
2002-10-28  0:46                   ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-10-28 17:11                     ` Erich Focht
2002-10-28 18:32                       ` Martin J. Bligh [this message]
2002-10-28 17:38                     ` Erich Focht
2002-10-28 17:36                       ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-10-28 23:49                         ` Erich Focht
2002-10-29  0:00                           ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-10-29  1:12                             ` Gerrit Huizenga
2002-10-29 22:39                         ` Erich Focht
2002-10-28  7:16                   ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-10-25 14:46 ` Crunch time -- the musical. (2.5 " Kevin Corry

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